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Trump Should Know Playing by the Rules isn’t Stealing
Conservative Review ^ | 04/06/2016 | Robert Eno

Posted on 04/06/2016 7:10:10 PM PDT by writer33

The race for the Republican nomination for the presidency increasingly looks like it will go to an open convention in Cleveland. It is virtually impossible for any candidate to get a majority of the delegates, 1237, prior to the GOP convention. The reality of this situation has seemingly gotten under the skin of Donald Trump as he has increasingly calling the nominating process “unfair.”

The rules of the nominating process to be the general election candidate of the Republican Party for the presidency were set before the process began. At least in regards to delegate allocation, selection, and binding. The Call of the Convention was finalized on November 30, 2015. The call outlined the rules of the primary and caucus season, went through exact delegate allocation, and outlined general guidelines on how each state can select and bind delegates. This was available two months in advance of the first primary.

There are 56 different state, territorial, or federal district Republican Parties. Each one had their own rules for selecting delegates. Besides the carve-out for the first four states, it was known that no state could hold a winner-take-all contest, prior to March 15th. The only other major rule that constrained state parties said that if a state binds delegates, the three state members of the RNC must also be bound. Other than that, each state was free to choose how it would bind, or not bind delegates, and how the delegates were selected. Every candidate knew those rules beforehand.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservativereview; cruz; hitandrunposter; marklevin; trump; votesperdelegate
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1 posted on 04/06/2016 7:10:10 PM PDT by writer33
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To: writer33

Trump will play those delegates big time. Wanna bet?


2 posted on 04/06/2016 7:12:21 PM PDT by WENDLE (I guess)
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To: writer33

Is there a GOP rule to cheat and lie, as was done
to Dr. Carson? Is backstabbing and lying the rule
as Cruz has done about Mr. Trump (endlessly) for the
GOP? To those outside of the GOP and the DNC,
these actions are without morals and wrongful.


3 posted on 04/06/2016 7:12:44 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: WENDLE

I hope he does. That would be to his advantage.


4 posted on 04/06/2016 7:13:04 PM PDT by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: writer33
It is absolutely stealing if it keeps Trump from the nomination. Trump winning is all that matters. The heck with 150 year old rules.

And if you, or your candidate disagree, and DARE try to follow those rules to give you an advantage in an election, well you are a GOPe hack and a thief to boot.

5 posted on 04/06/2016 7:13:43 PM PDT by Iowa David (Cruz 2016 - Before it's too late)
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To: writer33

Advantage Trump. This is war now.. Watch him people move.


6 posted on 04/06/2016 7:14:09 PM PDT by WENDLE (I guess)
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To: writer33

Any laws about flat out bribing the delegates?

$100,000 each for their vote to put Trump over the top?


7 posted on 04/06/2016 7:15:06 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, R)
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To: Iowa David

Here’s another excerpt:

“Because of the large field of candidates at the beginning of the process, many people have been predicting an open convention from the beginning. Some campaigns have been preparing for that as part of their campaign strategy; the Trump campaign was not. They didn’t even hire someone to be in charge of delegates until after they started losing the delegate selection conventions and caucuses. It is almost too late and as the saying goes, “piss poor planning prevents proper performance.”

“While he has decried the rules as being unfair, Trump himself has benefitted from them. He has obtained a greater proportion of delegates than his proportion of votes and up until now the rules have allowed him to do this.”


8 posted on 04/06/2016 7:17:09 PM PDT by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: writer33

Awaiting the imminent arrival of many TRUMPSTERS to cry “it’s not fair, why do we have to play by the rules”. The PRIME RULE IS REFLECTED IN MY TAGLINE. Deal with it Trumpsters.


9 posted on 04/06/2016 7:18:20 PM PDT by House Atreides (TRUMP or CRUZ --- The 1st one to get to 1237 gets the Nomination Brass Ring...PERIOD)
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Soon someone will bring up Carson and claim Cruz lied or cheated in Iowa... Conveniently forgetting the truth. Or maybe they don’t know the truth as they mindlessly go about repeating whatever Trumps says. Like lemmings.

Trump IS what he accuses other’s of being. That’s his style.

One such quality is liar.


10 posted on 04/06/2016 7:18:47 PM PDT by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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To: Diogenesis

Yes. The author of this piece has clearly never participated firsthand in actual Republican Party processes, or he would know that changing the rules midstream is par for the course at every level - local, state, and national.

In fact, one rule in particular - the “Ron Paul Rule” was put into place in the middle of the last cycle to deny his supporters the opportunity to place Paul’s name into nomination at the national convention. Now that that rule favors Trump they are repealing it - both times in the middle of the race.

The GOP establishment knows only one rule: maintain control at all costs.


11 posted on 04/06/2016 7:19:20 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: Diogenesis

“Is there a GOP rule to cheat and lie, as was done
to Dr. Carson? Is backstabbing and lying the rule
as Cruz has done about Mr. Trump (endlessly) for the
GOP? To those outside of the GOP and the DNC,
these actions are without morals and wrongful.”

I was going to say something in response to what you wrote, and then decided, why? Reading again what you wrote, I realized that it would be pointless.


12 posted on 04/06/2016 7:19:34 PM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: House Atreides

Here’s more for people to mull over then:

“Trump has received 37 percent of the vote in those states that have held binding caucuses and primaries. He has earned 46 percent of the delegates. That is almost ten percent more delegates than if the Republican contests were completely proportional.

The Republican nominating contest, in fact, is geared towards helping the front runner. This is for a variety of factors meant to accelerate the coalescing around a nominee. Those factors include thresholds for delegate allocation, winner-take-all contests, and winner-take-most rules that give all delegates in a proportional primary to someone who earns over 50 percent of the vote.

The rules were changed in 2012 to benefit the front runner at the behest of Mitt Romney. That Trump has been unable to fully capitalize on these rules is nobody’s fault but his own. This is especially true, given that Donald Trump has benefitted from these rules that benefit the front runner at every turn. This was most notable when he won the Florida Primary, and 99 delegates in a fractured field, he now decries. He did so with less than 50 percent of the vote.

Here’s another way at looking how the rules have actually benefitted Trump. He has needed far fewer votes per delegate than any other candidate over this season. For instance, he’s needed about 1200 fewer votes per delegate than Cruz. Rubio and Kasich have needed almost double that.”


13 posted on 04/06/2016 7:20:11 PM PDT by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: writer33

GOP rules are disturbing.


14 posted on 04/06/2016 7:20:18 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: House Atreides
Deal with it Trumpsters.

May your chains wear lightly upon your wrists.

15 posted on 04/06/2016 7:21:32 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: kinsman redeemer

That would be post #3.


16 posted on 04/06/2016 7:21:35 PM PDT by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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To: GingisK

Yep. It was set up for Romney. That didn’t happen.


17 posted on 04/06/2016 7:22:07 PM PDT by writer33 (Mark Levin Is The Constitutional Engine Of Conservatism)
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The point- all the candidates knew these rules before they decided to run. This is the playbook, so to be FAIR, everyone plays by these rules. Later, the rules can be changed but not in the middle of the race. It wouldn’t be FAIR, and as we know, the frontrunner mentions that word frequently and wants it applied to him.


18 posted on 04/06/2016 7:24:12 PM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: writer33

how about unfair rules created by thieves?


19 posted on 04/06/2016 7:24:34 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: Iowa David

Trump winning is all that matters?

The derangement and idol worship in the Trump bubble is astounding.

No, sir. Returning this country to constitutional principles and a position of strength, both economically and strategically, is what matters.

It’s up to voters to decide in November who is best equipped to do this.

Perhaps you don’t understand that, in reality, the political parties are independent clubs. Voters are invited to participate on the periphery, but in the end the parties pick their candidates.

That’s what they are for. That’s what they’ve always done.

Trump really doesn’t matter, unless he convinces enough delegates that he’s the best man to sacrifice the next four years in complete service to this country. His self-centered behavior so far leaves that in question.

Maybe he is capable of that. But his winning is not what matters at all. It really, really isn’t.


20 posted on 04/06/2016 7:25:14 PM PDT by Jedidah
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