Posted on 04/05/2016 7:51:13 AM PDT by Kaslin
Objectivism is actually rooted in Aristotle.
What cliches?
Oh, do go on. Let’s hear it.
Trumpeters, take note.
So you the atheist have come full circle and by your reason have bumped into God.
Congratulations.
God is and will always be. There is no beginning of God and no end of God
” In Islam Jews and Christians are referred to “people of the book” precisely because these religions are based on the same god. “
Islam simply acknowledged that Jews and Chrisitans have the Bible, unlike pagan religions of the time. Including the Moon worshippers that Islam borrows heavily from.
You think means that they worship the same God. No Imam believes that. No historian believes that. No Christian theologian. Only you, based on no knowledge of the religion itself. Just one phrase taken in isolation. That’s a cliche popular among the COEXIST crowd.
I'm not assuming anything. I'm making clear my faith in God and His Son.
I am no more assuming anything that you are in your laughable "self-evident" truths. If the universe exists and you exist within it, please let us see your proof.
And if you can't prove it, let's hear you admit to what amounts to your own article of faith.
p.s. A system of ethics? LOL! A system of ethics, all right. Based on your idea of self-interest...for a self you can't prove exists in a universe that has no interest in you.
Only if you first believe in God. You the theist have once again assumed the conclusion.
Ridicule is the last resort of an empty argument.
Is that the kind of resolution generally produced by your "system of ethics"?
No, I am suggesting He is the Designer.
Not a thing is self-evident to my eyes, my friend.
Though I do agree that, as Jefferson said, there are “truths” we choose to take as self-evident.
I take the truth of Christianity as gospel, so to speak; though I will admit I am a very poor Christian, by almost any standard.
You apparently embrace only the truth of your senses, and only the ethics that you and your friends can agree on.
I’m no fine philosopher either. But I’ll tell you this, C.C., as you probably already know, there have been many, many minds greater than yours or mine to ponder these questions; and virtually to a man (or a woman) they have been led only to greater uncertainty.
I find a welcome peace in the certainty of Christ. All the rest of it is but trying to live a worthy life.
Objectivism boils down to “an individual’s primary moral obligation is to achieve his own well-being—it is for his life and his self-interest that an individual ought to adhere to a moral code”
That kind of moral code can be twisted into anything a person wants, to meet whatever he “feels” is in his best interest at that moment.
That is not a code of morals, that is a recipe for every sin and evil action under the sun. Just because you use it to do “good” does not mean anyone else will.
I’m happy for you. I think we have reached the end of our conversation on this subject.
He says He is alone. His name is "I am". He says He exists because he exists -- "I am that I am." He says He is all that there is, "the Beginning and the End."
And He exists in another dimension to which we are not yet privy, not visible in the physical world. Have you ever tried the "barbershop mirror" thing, where you stand between two mirrors that are exactly parallell, and they form what looks like a visual funnel with your head in the center, but no matter how you turn your eyes or your head, you can never see down the center? It's like that. You simply can't see Him because of the way He has arranged parallel realities. Jesus, an earthly aspect of God sent to teach us, said that His "kingdom" is "not of this world."
Even if it were not true that the God of our known solar system and beyond (thousands of galaxies operating in patterns) is the only god, it's above our pay grade to worry about what might be bigger than an universe already huge beyond most people's conceptual framework. Such a philosophical exercise would be exponentially greater than worrying which mid-career change to make while you are still in kindergarten. There is much you would better benefit by understanding before you worry about that question.
Not true. What you're missing is that one's self interest cannot infringe on another's. i.e. what's good for the goose is good for the gander.
I can morally act in my self interest as long as I don't infringe on the basic rights of life, liberty and property of others.
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