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How a $2.7 Billion Submarine Was Crippled by Defective Parts
Fiscal Times ^ | 4/3/2016 | Martin Matishak

Posted on 04/03/2016 3:56:20 PM PDT by Incorrigible

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To: Incorrigible; All

The problem with the piping is not a bad weld, the problem is that the joint was welded at all.

There were defects in the parts in question, and the manufacturer attempted an unauthorized weld repair....and then failed to disclose this fact.

The unauthorized welds were found in a subsequent inspection, after the parts were installed in the plant. The manufacturer certified the parts before delivery...like many parts in military procurement, this is how it works. Critical parts do undergo extra scrutiny.

I can’t say why the defects weren’t found before the parts were installed in the plant...but it looks like someone, or several someones, may be going to prison over this.

**Former US Navy Nuclear Propulsion Plant Operator/Welder


61 posted on 04/03/2016 6:10:25 PM PDT by rottndog ('Live Free Or Die' Ain't just words on a bumber sticker...or a tagline.)
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To: sparklite2

It was a Mig 25, flown by Viktor Belenko.


62 posted on 04/03/2016 6:16:00 PM PDT by Mark17 (Thank God I have Jesus, there's more wealth in my soul than acres of diamonds and mountains of gold)
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To: batterycommander
How many Muzzie welders work on Nuke subs?

You are not allowed to ask that.

That would be racissss, and islamo-whatever it is.

63 posted on 04/03/2016 6:23:54 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Secret Agent Man

I got this far before somebody read my mind.


64 posted on 04/03/2016 6:29:42 PM PDT by MSF BU (Support the troops: Join Them.)
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To: Incorrigible

Its an age-old problem: “For want of a nail, a shoe was lost...”


65 posted on 04/03/2016 6:36:31 PM PDT by lightman (I'm nothing special...just a follower of the siren call of the Ison.)
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To: existentially_kuffer

I would think something like this would be TIG welded.


66 posted on 04/03/2016 6:41:48 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Incorrigible

Send in the union crew that did it wrong the first time, and make them stay until the repair is done. That might discourage shoddy work in the future. And it might encourage the crew to work as quickly as possible.

As an alternative, charge the responsible parties with treason, and execute them in front of their co-workers.


67 posted on 04/03/2016 6:44:29 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Incorrigible
They might want to check how many muslims are involved in the installation and the repair.


68 posted on 04/03/2016 6:51:09 PM PDT by Iron Munro (Noah: 'When the animals began to pair up by specie and stand in line, I really took notice.')
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To: Thibodeaux
where are his certifications?

could have been a she that did the work.

69 posted on 04/03/2016 7:01:44 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Thibodeaux

I don’t know but would wager that there is not a welded part on that sub that is not x-rayed, UT and mag particle tested prior to it being approved for use. There should be a paper trail of it being signed off on. Somebody should be in some hot water.


70 posted on 04/03/2016 7:07:15 PM PDT by Captain7seas (My daddy was not a postman)
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To: SandwicheGuy

My memory agrees with yours on this issue.


71 posted on 04/03/2016 7:09:37 PM PDT by B4Ranch (https://www.22kill.com/)
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To: Thibodeaux

The welders could have been certified, and performing to an approved weld procedure, and still messed up. Mistakes can happen. It’s just that the inspectors should have caught it.

Sophisticated jobs like this have weld maps that are keyed to the x-rays taken. Everything is, or should be traceable. Somebody signed off on this, and that somebody is going away for a long time.


72 posted on 04/03/2016 7:09:40 PM PDT by Tallguy
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To: arl295

check the citizenship of the contractors and their welders


73 posted on 04/03/2016 7:11:24 PM PDT by B212
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To: sparklite2
"Finally, a Soviet pilot defected with his plane. The lack of sophistication in the plane’s manufacturing came as a shock. They bolts that held the metal skin in place still had their heads intact, increasing drag. Grinding off the bolt heads was a no-brainer, but there you go. The rest of the plane was similarly poorly done."

I remember that, but there was a follow-up a couple of years later. Later they put the plane in a wind tunnel and found that the bolt heads were where there was no drag, so there was no problem having bolt heads in those locations. As such, it was an elegant solution to keeping costs down with no loss of performance.

I had the opportunity to talk to a aeronautic engineer who was very well versed on the tests they did. He thought that the plane was engineered to work despite quality control issues. Which in his opinion was quite a feat unto itself.

74 posted on 04/03/2016 7:14:48 PM PDT by fini
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To: B212

2 BILLION dollar project and the lowest dollar and skill workers got the job? WTF!

As a taxpayer, we should be refunded fully for the bad work that was done on this sub

No excuse in this

Competent welders should have been found for this job


75 posted on 04/03/2016 7:18:42 PM PDT by arl295
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To: fini

interesting....as I understand, the Soviet military was designed for 10 day war +/- hence ships, tanks, truck and aircraft engines were capable full power for 10 days and then died


76 posted on 04/03/2016 7:23:44 PM PDT by B212
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To: arl295

strange that bad welds were in the area of the Nuclear power plant....doesn’t that detail ring a few alarms??


77 posted on 04/03/2016 7:26:59 PM PDT by B212
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To: Incorrigible
I've seen this before.


78 posted on 04/03/2016 7:35:46 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: Incorrigible
I've seen this before.


79 posted on 04/03/2016 7:35:46 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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To: Lx

Evidently, I’ve seen it twice...


80 posted on 04/03/2016 7:36:16 PM PDT by Lx (Do you like it? Do you like it, Scott? I call it, "Mr. & Mrs. Tenorman Chili.")
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