Posted on 03/22/2016 1:06:35 PM PDT by Kaslin
Sen. Ted Cruz blamed an "extreme strain of Islam" for Tuesday's terrorist attacks in Brussels, which saw at least 34 killed and 170 injured after two explosions hit the Belgian capital.
Cruz also argued in a statement that the attacks are not "isolated incidents." The two attacks took place outside of the Brussels airport and the Maelbeek metro station near the European Union less than a week after Salah Abdesalah, the terrorist behind the Paris attacks in November, was captured.
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None of them have a good plan. A plan that actually leads to victory. Mostly, it’s platitudes about defeating Isis, uniting countries etc...
No plans.
The reason, I think, is that the only way to actually achieve victory is via a real war and no one really wants to admit it. Trump has come the closest but even he hasn’t said it.
Yes.
You're very impolite to notice that.
Yeah he mis-read the line.
It was actually:
The extreme stain of Islam must be defeated
Islam is a seventh century ideology which persists almost unchanged. Naziism was a destructively romantic reaction to modernism which does not exist in the world today.
I get that a lot. It happens when you speak about the truth.
Yes, there is an extreme strain of islam, which is the main problem for the West, and which is quite distinct from the rest of islam.
It is the Wahabbi strain - the state religion of Saudi Arabia. That sect is the driving force behind al Queda, ISIS, the Muslim Brotherhood, Hamas, Boko Haram; our own US groups like CAIR, ISNA and the MSA; and the steady flow of new jihadis each month to whatever current battlefield.
It is quite distinct, and especially extreme. Although islam is fundamentally flawed because it is based on an obviously false prophet, who co-opted religion to serve his personal desires for power, wealth and sexual gratification; most interpretations of islam around the world and throughout its history, have been much less aggressive and extreme than this one.
The Wahabbis adhere to the Hanbali Fiqh (the smallest of the four major schools of thought on interpreting islam). The Hanbali Fiqh is extreme in its insistence on only literal reading of only three sources (quran, hadith, sirat). No interpretation or moral judgement of any type is permissible, under the assertion that human minds are flawed, but these documents are divinely inspired (the quran being reputedly divinely flawless).
The other main extreme element of Wahabism, is the strict (mindless) application of the rule that whatever comes later in these scriptures, supersedes whatever comes earlier (which is how they resolve the many internal conflicts which exist in their “flawless” sources).
Early in Muhammad’s career he had many conciliatory things to say, but after he had consolidated military and political power, he became increasingly brutal and intolerant. The extreme Wahabbi interpretation rule of pre-emption filters out any potential balance, leaving only the final megalomaniacal imperative to conquer the world.
Like other main schools of Fiqh, the Hanbali (Wahabbi) hold up Muhammad as the best example of a human. In that respect, all of islam is fundamentally flawed across the board by the horrible character of Muhammad.
But the Wahabbi interpretation, backed by Saudi and Gulf Arab oil money, is what has driven the development of the modern Sunni extremists who are attacking and subverting the West. It is changing the face of traditional local forms all over the world, by training the Imams, building new mosques and printing the textbooks. In the West, about 90% of the new mosques and madrassas are funded by Wahabbis, and there are effectively no pre-existing strains of islam to compete with.
The government of Iran also sponsors terrorists as instruments of their power (e.g. Hizballah), but it is their government policy, more than their ideology (strain of islam) which drives them. The Iranian Twelver Shi’ite sect is fundamentally focused on fighting Sunnis, with world conquest following almost magically after that, through the power of their prophesied messiah, the Imam Madhi.
Wahabbi ideology is inherently violent, intolerant and expansionist. That extreme strain of islam is the center of gravity in the fight against the modern islamist terrorist threat, and the islamist subversive threat targeted against the West.
Know your enemy.
This beast must be shot in the heart, and the heart of the modern islamist threat is the extreme strain of islam known as Wahabbism (Salafism, Takfiris, etc.)
Wahabbism should be outlawed as hate speech, incitement to violence, and treason against our constitution. Mosques should be monitored (like they do in islamic countries), and those preaching Wahabism should be imprisoned, stripped of citizenship and expelled. RICO prosecutions should be used to conficate their properties and funds.
The Governments who resource Wahabism (Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc.) should be forced to cut them off and reform their extreme interpretations, or have their regimes brought down.
Indeed. Excellent summation, thank you.
An additional problem is the almost complete lack of resistance, at least in the West, among non-Wahabbi Muslims towards Wahhabi threats for compliance. The most efficient way of stopping Wahabbism must surly be from within, though as of yet I am aware of no non-terroristic Islamic opponent to it.
I am aware of no non-terroristic Islamic opponent to it (Wahabbi extremism).
The King of Jordan and the President of Egypt are the highest profile anti-extremists in the region.
Although Turkey had a long history of Sufism and the old Ottoman Hanafi Fiqh, their current AKP ruling party has aligned with the Wahabbis, and are actively pulling their society that way.
Islam is Islam, there is no extremist Islam.
Sure they/re "peaceful" until you tell them you aren/t converting.....then their inner demons of hatred emerge.
It may have started with Wahabbism but that strain has taken on a life of its own and (to take the virus analogy further) infected the other strains of Islam. It may not have (to kill the analogy dead) fully metastasized in the other strains of Islam you identify but it will as the lure of being the victim, blaming the world for failure is a seductive one.
Wahabbism should be outlawed as hate speech, incitement to violence, and treason against our constitution. Mosques should be monitored (like they do in islamic countries), and those preaching Wahabism should be imprisoned, stripped of citizenship and expelled. RICO prosecutions should be used to confiscate their properties and funds.
All of these are probably required but can you imagine any politician actually championing these, much less putting these into place? Even Trump, to whom nothing is too outrageous, wouldn't do this. The cries of Freedom of Religion would lead directly to impeachment of any President who lead this charge. It shouldn't but it would.
“Yes, there is an extreme strain of islam, which is the main problem for the West, and which is quite distinct from the rest of islam...It is the Wahabbi strain”
All good and fine - but has Cruz called for elimination of WAHABBISM? If so, I haven’t heard it.
If he’s AFRAID to be specific, it’s no better than yelling “SECURE THE BORDER”, as McCain claims he wants the same, and even Bernie Sanders calls for a ‘secure border’.
Trump calls for looking at ALL of Islam, not just the bombers (i.e. the Wahabbi’s), but the ENTIRE ‘religion’ as they also give aid and comfort. Just as Trump calls for a WALL, not just ‘secure borders’.
So, the Wahabbi strain is small, a minority. But it is also fundamentalist, has most of the money, finances all the muzzie organizations that we encounter, finances almost all the mosques and schools, and trains most of the imams?
That sounds like they are the big players in the Islamic world and are the muzzie version of the “Church of What’s Happening Now”. You start out assuring us that Wahabbism is the Islamic version of a minor cult but end up admitting that they are the Islamic version of the Southern Baptist Convention (in terms of size and influence, not in beliefs).
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