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The Most Conservative Candidate Who Is Electable
The National Review ^ | March 21, 2016 | Nicholas Frankovich

Posted on 03/21/2016 12:47:25 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Ted Cruz beats Hillary Clinton nationally in recent polls, though narrowly, and in state-by-state matchups performs better than the current front-runner for the Republican nomination. Predictably, Cruz wallops Clinton in Utah, a reliably Republican state. But — this is news — both Clinton and Sanders win there when they’re matched against Trump, according to a Deseret News/KSL poll conducted March 8–15. The best evidence we have here in March, as candidates fight for the nomination, is that Trump at the top of the ticket would remove Utah from the “solid Republican” column and put it and its six electoral votes into play. In the most recent poll of how voters in neighboring Arizona would vote in November, Cruz wins its eleven electoral votes by six percentage points; Trump and Clinton tie.

And so on across the map. Trump supporters say that he would redraw it by putting putting into play East Coast and Midwestern states that have been solidly Democratic for ages, but so far the evidence is that he would redraw it in favor of Democrats. Cruz performs better against Clinton in the most recent polls in Pennsylvania and Florida. Ohio? Cruz over Clinton by two points; Clinton over Trump by six. In his home state of New York, Clinton crushes Trump — less severely than she does Cruz, but in both cases her double-digit margins are so large that any plan for the Republicans to capture the state’s 29 electoral votes would appear quixotic and ill advised if the party wanted to spend its resources to maximum effect.

Some Trump supporters and neutral observers hypothesize that he would draw new white working-class voters to the Republican party. The evidence is that he would alienate more voters than he would attract. Pro-Trump friends and acquaintances of mine are unfazed by that information: The polls are always wrong, they say breezily. And people hate Clinton, they add, never mind that people hate Trump more. His unfavorable ratings are worse than hers and in fact record-breaking.

A vote for Trump in the primaries is a vote for Clinton in November, and probably for Democrats in congressional races as well. Most of his supporters seem not to care. They hate both parties, but at the moment the Republican one is nearer, like someone they’ve been trying to be friends with but is always dissing them. They relish the prospect of cutting him down to size. They’re enjoying the cathartic experience now, like the New Leftists who, gathering in Grant Park in Chicago in the summer of 1968, vented their disdain for the Democratic-party establishment of the day. It was, for all practical purposes, the most consequential Nixon rally of the campaign season.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016; cruz; gopprimary; moosebitsister; nationalreview; nicholasfrankovich; sidebarspam; yellowjournalism
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To: CapitalistCrusader

Dont forget Cruz’s magical beatdown in Va. If he couldn’t take a strong 2nd there, then he has no shot with NoVa. And Ohio he was also shutout from.

Michigan was also another blowout, Along with Illinois.

We still cant get a coherent answer as to what state Cruz is expected to flip from the Dems from 2012.


21 posted on 03/21/2016 1:00:04 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

22 posted on 03/21/2016 1:00:16 PM PDT by Bobalu (I'm spitting on my hands, and hoisting the black flag!)
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To: nascarnation
I heard on FR that Ted was “wildly popular” in California.

No offense to this illustrious forum, but you "heard" on FR? Not exactly a statistically relevant statement.

23 posted on 03/21/2016 1:00:21 PM PDT by CapitalistCrusader
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To: Dr. Sivana

“he is not pretending to be a small government candidate”

Correct. Trump is not pretending. Cruz is.


24 posted on 03/21/2016 1:01:01 PM PDT by paintriot
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To: GilGil
The national review has been doing a very painful abortion on itself,and any day now it will be complete. HELLary will be in an orange jump suit soon,that is why the commie rats are stirring up so much $hit,trump will put a whoop@as on her if she is the candidate,and whomever they get to replace her will get creamed also.
25 posted on 03/21/2016 1:01:37 PM PDT by samantha (keep up the fight....)
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To: Dr. Sivana

“Cruz is the only small government candidate running.”

Cruz is running with the GOPe now because he has no chance without their cash, people, and dirty tricks. That means his agenda is officially over.


26 posted on 03/21/2016 1:01:44 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Sybeck1

No. Cruz couldn’t win the South with other so-called conservatives or moderately conservatives splitting the vote.

Non-conservative republicans unite strongly behind Trump.


27 posted on 03/21/2016 1:01:49 PM PDT by the_boy_who_got_lost
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The same Ted Cruz who couldn’t even draw 20% in Ohio last Tuesday is gonna beat Hillary in that same state in November? Wouldn’t bet the ranch on it.


28 posted on 03/21/2016 1:02:42 PM PDT by dowcaet
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Ted Cruz beats Hillary Clinton nationally in recent polls, though narrowly, and in state-by-state matchups performs better than the current front-runner for the Republican nomination


This is a massive load of horse s**t that I've long since gotten sick of, and now I have some numbers to back it up, so here is why.



Take a close look there. Hillary only beat Trump in actual votes by a fraction of a percent, and the Republican vote was split between many candidates, while the dems were essentially split between two.

Total Dem votes: 1.7+ million
Total Rep votes: 2.3+ million

If Trump gets the nomination, and the GOPe and #NeverTrumps and Kasich and Cruz actually give up their pointless fight and decide to focus on the real enemies, Trump is going to crush Hillary.
29 posted on 03/21/2016 1:04:24 PM PDT by 20yearsofinternet (Border: Close it. Illegals: Deport. Muslims: Ban 'em. Economy: Liberate it. PC: Kill it. Trump 2016)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I’m a Cruz supporter, but this “Trump can’t win” talk is nonsense. Hillary is a horrible - HORRIBLE - candidate and Trump has defied all known political gravity.


30 posted on 03/21/2016 1:04:32 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

McCain was the most “electable” in 2008

Romney was the most “electable” in 2012

What really mattered was that they would not shut down the Cheap Labor Express.

That’s what “electable” really means.


31 posted on 03/21/2016 1:04:33 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Know Islam, No peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Sybeck1

In the general? You see Hillary Clinton winning the South in the general election?


32 posted on 03/21/2016 1:04:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It’s not just about that. It’s about doing more than talking a lot too.


33 posted on 03/21/2016 1:04:50 PM PDT by MarMema (2016 - Trump or Goldman Sachs)
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To: VanDeKoik

You won’t get an answer because Ted Cruz has no prayer in hell in any battleground state other than Texas.


34 posted on 03/21/2016 1:04:57 PM PDT by dowcaet
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To: wattsgnu

“Hillary will be in jail.”

Yeah....ok.

“And keep insulting people over their religion.”

And explain to me where YOUR religion was insulted with what I said. Unless you have Muslim level sensitivity, you didn’t find anything remotely insulting by what I said.

I will repeat: Just because you run around and say Jesus a bunch of times DOES NOT MEAN YOU WILL WILL SOUTHERN VOTES.

Or maybe you need to be reminded that Ted won not one southern state.


35 posted on 03/21/2016 1:05:29 PM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: skeeter

The establishment GOPe candidate will be no different than any that ran since Reagan and all sell out to the liberals. So if I follow your thinking, I might as well have Hillary. No thanks. GO TRUMP the real outsider.


36 posted on 03/21/2016 1:05:35 PM PDT by nclaurel
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Frankly, Cruz is the only conservative running.

Unfortunately, Conservatism, like religion, are being used like filthy curse words in this primary election cycle.

Strangest thing I have ever seen in a Republican primary.................

37 posted on 03/21/2016 1:05:37 PM PDT by TXSearcher (The anti-RINO rebellion is being won by a NY RINO.......truth IS stranger than fiction.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
You have a different definition of conservative than do I. I will NOT evolve my conservative being.... God, Family, Country, personal, individual responsibility to those that dress up in a conservative costume. Conservatives do not put themselves above the Constitution. Furthermore, faux Christians are wolves in sheep clothing.

There is nothing conservative about Cruz's VAT tax, it is NWO from the git go. That is but one of the Cruz's mass deception... Beck and Romney expose just how far away from conservative principles, Cruz actually is.

38 posted on 03/21/2016 1:06:24 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: CapitalistCrusader

LOL I got shredded often by Team Cruz for pointing out that he got a lower percentage of the Nov 2012 vote in TEXAS than Mediocre Mitt. He was “wildly popular” there too.


39 posted on 03/21/2016 1:06:25 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

I sincerely doubt that.


40 posted on 03/21/2016 1:06:54 PM PDT by MarMema (2016 - Trump or Goldman Sachs)
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