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TIME TO DROP OUT? Ted Cruz Needs 87% of Remaining Delegates to Win Nomination
GP ^ | 03/17/16 | Jim Hoft

Posted on 03/17/2016 6:14:55 AM PDT by Enlightened1

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To: ScottinVA

Hey ScottinVA, who has only won 29% of the delegates so far, and needs to win 82% from here on out?

The only reason he has 29%, is because things were proportional prior to 03/15. Now they’re mostly winner take all.

And yet you think he has a great chance to win.

That is reality. Whatever you think about me doesn’t matter.

The hard cold facts matter. You’re delusional. And if you truly believe Ted has a chance, you’re worse than that.


301 posted on 03/17/2016 11:06:30 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Facing Trump nomination inevitability, folks are now openly trying to help Hillary destroy him.)
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To: wardaddy

Both are canards pimped by FOX and Cruz and Kasich and the Levin Rove Beck Ryan Hume Kristol Erickson etc axis
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The networks have given Trump 2 B in free airtime to publicize his rallies.

Associating Levin w Rove and Kristol is insane. Fox has had a blackout on the Cruz campaign until recently when there were viable RINO’s


302 posted on 03/17/2016 11:25:11 AM PDT by Leto
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To: Leto

I heard Megyn Kelly say last night it was 400m

OReilly said same thing

Trump draws viewers

They make a lot of ad revenue off that fact

It’s a dilemma for them

Like a hot crazy girlfriend

She’s Buckcherry wild and you gotta have it but you hate her at the same time


303 posted on 03/17/2016 11:48:01 AM PDT by wardaddy (Many Cruzbots here are on a seriously dark road....lets pray they can find their way back to sanity)
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To: Ancesthntr

once he signs off on a deal, it is done.

Tell it to all the guys who lost money on his various bankruptcies. If Trump believed all the things he says, he wouldn't have so carefully insulated himself after the first one, where he actually took a financial hit.

304 posted on 03/17/2016 11:48:39 AM PDT by Amity
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To: usafa92

What you said. He’s assisting the GOPe without any chance of being on a ticket himself.


305 posted on 03/17/2016 11:51:40 AM PDT by Defiant (After 8 years of Chump Change, it's time for Trump Change!!)
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To: Ancesthntr
Perhaps an agreement made NOW (and publicly), to the effect that whomever has the most committed delegates at the end of the primaries will be pledged the 2nd placer’s delegates ON THE FIRST BALLOT. Thus, the GOPe is shoved aside, and party unity begins on June 7.

That's exactly what I was suggesting.

306 posted on 03/17/2016 11:55:52 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: SampleMan

“Trump’s odds look pretty good right now, but the FRumpsters need to give the “get out” demands a rest.”

If Ted dropped out, it would pull the rug completely out from under the GOP-e. They’d have absolutely NO ONE left to turn to except Kasich, and even that wouldn’t work because he has no base of support and Trump would easily win enough of the remaining delegates.

If Ted is HONESTLY the “outsider” he says he is, he WOULD quit and deny the establishment their one chance to keep Trump out. Of course, he would have to see that he has no chance at winning the nomination himself - which I don’t think he admits to himself (yet). Perhaps he’s banking on Kasich dropping out and picking up some of his people (few as they are), but I think it’ll be too little too late, and it’s highly unlikely Cruz is going to pick up enough delegates to win going into the convention.


307 posted on 03/17/2016 12:07:47 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: Pravious

Nonsense.

The core of your argument that Cruz is GOPe is simply laughable.

The rest of your argument is “If he really cared, he’d sacrifice himself for Trump. Well, is he GOPe or not, pick one and go with it.

Newsflash, the majority of us don’t want Trump as our first choice, and we cast ballots too.

I’m always hearing here on FR how dammed perfect Trump is, how he doesn’t need anything, how he’ll win everything, and that everyone else is a loser. With all of that, why are so many Frumpsters, who HATE Ted Cruz, now calling on Cruz to make a Trump win possible? Hell, I’ve even been told that Cruz supporters votes are unwelcome in the Trump camp, i.e. we are wanted. So why would we give up now?


308 posted on 03/17/2016 12:34:14 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Good God, you’re sounding insecure. Are you really that worried about Trump getting to the majority? Calm yourself.


309 posted on 03/17/2016 12:45:28 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Breathe, Donald.... Breathe.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Sorry you equate an intent to see all American states have a voice as “delusional.” You are wayyyy overwrought and need meds, doughty. Do your stressed self a big favor and take a break.


310 posted on 03/17/2016 12:50:00 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Breathe, Donald.... Breathe.)
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To: Charles Henrickson
He just rocked the Northern Mariana Islands!

I have no idea if that counts towards the 8 majorities required by the GOP and RNC to be a nominee. If it dies, then good for him! I'm a Cruz guy, but Trump is likely to get the 1237... the important thing is to make sure that he (or Cruz) also has the 8 majorities to avoid the Convention shenanigans. Our fight right now is against the GOP, and in NOV it will be against Hillary. Cruz polls better against Hillary, so I'm still pulling and hoping Kasich drops out and my theory of a Trump Ceiling proves correct, but Kasich can help make sure the GOP gets a Brokered Convention by staying in the race... and he is saying that he will.

311 posted on 03/17/2016 1:13:18 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: DoughtyOne
The only reason he has 29%, is because things were proportional prior to 03/15. Now they’re mostly winner take all. And yet you think he has a great chance to win.

Actually, yes. Assuming two points (that Trump folks will obviously decry), that Trump has a ceiling of 49% (and he has not topped 49.3 in any state, getting that number in liberal MASS), and assuming Kasich drops out (since he is already mathematically eliminated), the fact that the states are winner-take-all and Cruz gets 51-49 wins in most of them, then Cruz catches up and gets the 1237 pretty easily. It isn't delusional, it is reasonable, especially BECAUSE the remaining states are mostly WTA. Calm down just a bot, and get back to being analytical. Yes, Trump likely wins at this point... but the idea that Cruz is done is nonsense. Trump just has to stay under 50 (and he has NEVER been over 50 yet), and Kasich has to drop out (as any non-GOP shill would do at this point), and this becomes a real nail-biter. Sit back and enjoy the show, and don't get too emotional about it. Your guy likely wins anyway (and loses to Hillary).

312 posted on 03/17/2016 1:18:41 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Teacher317
assuming Kasich drops out (since he is already mathematically eliminated)

If that discouraged him he would have dropped out Tuesday or Wednesday. He's not in it to win it, he's in it to spoil it. He's working for the GOPe, probably has a deal to become VP for whatever crap sandwich they try and shove down our throats at the convention.

313 posted on 03/17/2016 1:33:12 PM PDT by MaxFlint
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To: tacticalogic
ask whether those numbers really mean he's going to flip those states?

You certainly can.

It's just really difficult for me to forecast a guy finishing THIRD in the two major swing states is going to have a prayer in November.

Logically it makes more sense that the WINNER or NUMBER TWO finisher has a better chance.

314 posted on 03/17/2016 1:45:38 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: nascarnation

What’s the objective of basing who you vote for on who you think is going to win?


315 posted on 03/17/2016 1:54:19 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: tacticalogic
What’s the objective

Defeating the Democrat candidate in Nov.

316 posted on 03/17/2016 1:57:21 PM PDT by nascarnation
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To: SampleMan

“The core of your argument that Cruz is GOPe is simply laughable.

The rest of your argument is “If he really cared, he’d sacrifice himself for Trump. Well, is he GOPe or not, pick one and go with it.”

Only one problem with your “argument” - I didn’t say Cruz was GOP-e. I said it would pull the rug out from under them if he packed it in - which it would.


317 posted on 03/17/2016 2:06:04 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: SampleMan

“Newsflash, the majority of us don’t want Trump as our first choice, and we cast ballots too.”

By the way, who’s “us”? Paid Cruz operatives? Trolls? If you go by the Free Republic poll (which is open to everyone) this place is 80% Trump, 20% Cruz. So where’s this big pro-Cruz majority (besides Ted’s imagination)?


318 posted on 03/17/2016 2:08:59 PM PDT by Pravious
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To: nascarnation
Defeating the Democrat candidate in Nov.

How's that been working so far?

319 posted on 03/17/2016 2:11:19 PM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: Enlightened1
And for all of you people who were fooled into thinking Cruz was non-establishment, and an "outsider", in the face of a mountain of information proving otherwise..

Today, Senator Lindsey Graham announced his full-throated support for Senator Ted Cruz, to include giving Cruz access to Graham’s extensive donor and lobbying lists for financial support.

[…] Sen. Lindsey Graham will host a fundraiser on Monday in support of Sen. Ted Cruz.

320 posted on 03/17/2016 2:18:13 PM PDT by gg188 (Ted Cruz, R - Goldman Sachs)
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