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To: corlorde

And Rush says it sounds like Trump drivel.


199 posted on 03/14/2016 10:19:12 AM PDT by tapatio (In memory of my Dad 5-27-26 2-4-2010 and Mom 4-20-26 12-8-2012)
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To: tapatio

Rush damn near tied himself in a knot reacting to someone making a comment about his beloved Cruz (makes me ill!) Seeing as how there is a very real Goldman Sachs connection.


202 posted on 03/14/2016 10:20:21 AM PDT by MagUSNRET
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To: tapatio

Iwas saying that Rush would try to tell people today that Cruz did not say what he did and that Cruz was right.

In other words, Rush just made a big hypocrite out of himself.

He said it was wrong for those to blame Trump for the violence. Then he turns around and says Cruz was right.

Rush is such a whore.


262 posted on 03/14/2016 10:39:16 AM PDT by dforest (Ted took your money and is laughing all the way to Goldman Sachs)
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To: tapatio
Rush's response to that caller caused me to turn Rush off. I've been a daily listener since the late 80s. It's on in my office when I'm working. I record it when I'm out of the office. I catch up when I go on a run. I have often been amazed that Rush and I agree on everything. It's not that he says something and then I agree with him. He sometimes talks about an issue I haven't heard about, but more often than not, I have already read the story, and listen to Rush to marvel at how he recognizes the best way to frame the viewpoint.

But he and I have been drifting apart with respect to Ted Cruz. I was probably for Ted 2016 long before Rush ever thought of Ted. I was a big backer of Ted in 2012. The more I read about him, the more I thought we needed him in 2016. But I knew that the establishment would fight him tooth and nail, and had little hope of him succeeding. My best hope was that he would get some very wealthy backer, like Reagan had with his California financial backers, and be able to fund a campaign that allowed him to get his message out. But after supporting the conservative in 1996, 2000, 2008 and 2012 and getting aced out by the way the GOPe sets up the nomination process, I wasn't very optimistic.

For years, I've been screaming about amnesty, because I have seen what illegal aliens taking over and voting in California has done to this state. I know what would happen to the rest of the country if the establishment's push for amnesty ever came to fruition. It, to me is issue number one. The rest of them pale in comparison, because you give amnesty, and none of the other issues can ever come out our way ever again. We ease into a leftist tyranny.

Along comes Trump. He is not a conservative in the sense that you list 30 issues and go down the list and determine that the person has the "right" position. But he is right on immigration, moreso than even Cruz, who has vacillated on what he would do with those who are already here. Trump said he would build a damn wall, and send them all back. If they want to come back, they would have to apply. Guess what? We, the people get to determine which ones can come back. Congress controls immigration policy, and if we win big, are they going to let poor, illiterate illegals back in to take our construction jobs? Or will that only be to cover those who have money, have been here 25 years, maybe own a home? I contend the latter.

So, he has the most important issue down better than anyone. Then add in that he quickly added some great positions on taxes, trade, Muslim immigration, 2nd amendment, common core. It's a great start. Yes, I still love Ted Cruz, but I also know at the end of the process, he is likely to be aced out just like every conservative I and all the Freepers have supported over the past 20 years, 6 elections.

Initially, then, I was hopeful that Cruz and Trump would find a way to work together. As the campaign began, and after the early debates, I began to have some concerns about Cruz. Not as much his positions, but his ability to lead, to inspire crowds. Trump was doing that. Reminiscent of Reagan. Cruz, on the other hand, his demeanor and speechifying was a little stilted, formal. I understand his language, but I began to worry that he wouldn't be able to connect with the voters and ever catch fire. At that point, I began thinking that it made more sense for Trump to run and win this election, and I hoped that he would work with Cruz and maybe he would even pick him for VP.

As time has gone on, and especially after Cruz began his lame attacks on Trump, I have become less and less enamored of Cruz. I despaired that they would not be able to work together after the falling out. As Cruz became even more aggressive, I began to actually dislike Cruz. He was being unnecessarily nasty. If you are Cruz, to me, Trump is not the enemy. You are both anti-establishment (or so I thought), and should be the two allied. But that's not what has happened.

Instead, Cruz has thrown in with the establishment. It was a little bit at first. With the Neil Bush addition, it became obvious and very worrisome. Then, after he blamed Trump for the Chicago protests, and for the attack the following day, I had had it. He has lost me, probably for good. Some of the things that have been coming out against him regarding his establishment ties, from his wife at Goldman, to his TPP and TPA support, are also very troubling. I am no longer able to discount that he may not be sincere, that he may be part of the establishment at heart. The establishment, to me, is a global cartel that doesn't care about America as an idea or American citizens as individuals. If he throws in with them, he is an enemy, not someone I can support. Maybe Sessions knew what he was doing.

So, that is my evolution on Trump and Cruz in a nutshell. Today, when the caller wanted to talk about Cruz's ties to the establishment, he was barely able to get out Goldman Sachs, and Rush shut him down immediately, then spun it as about the loan. I have a feeling he was going to talk about Cruz's wife, and then talk about the other items that show Cruz has thrown in with the establishment, and Rush made sure, under no circumstances was that going to get out to his audience. This forum, pro and anti Cruz, know the litany about that and can decide accordingly, but God forbid that Rush let his listeners know what this guy was about to say.

And there he crossed a line into propaganda, to me. He is clearly all in on Cruz, while hedging his bets on Trump by not openly going after him like Kasich or Rubio, but at the same time, twisting arguments against him, spinning or concealing. Today, with this caller, enough was enough. It's a shame. Rush can support who he wants, but I would prefer that he be honest enough to say what he is doing, and not become a spinmeister like the guys he usually criticizes.

I hear Laura Ingraham is having some interesting discussions. I'll have to check it out.

I guess you can call this a Rush opus.

450 posted on 03/14/2016 11:54:15 AM PDT by Defiant (After 8 years of Chump Change, it's time for Trump Change!!)
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