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LIBERALS WANT YOUR CAR KEYS
National Review ^ | 3/9/16 | Daniel Gelernter

Posted on 03/11/2016 7:09:11 AM PST by gridlock

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To: Fresh Wind

Excellent Danka !


41 posted on 03/11/2016 7:59:18 AM PST by Therapsid (eagan)
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To: gridlock

If they can’t get us to give up our cars, forcing us into computerized ones that go where and when they program them to go is their next-best option.


42 posted on 03/11/2016 8:00:14 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: usurper
I am not sure how the states will survive without the revenue stream.

States?? That concept is SOOOOOO 18th. Century! Onward to the Glorious Central Collective.


43 posted on 03/11/2016 8:01:34 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: gridlock

I added the keyword “redbarchetta” to this thread. It’s the “banglist” for self-driving car articles. Or at least it should be.

:^)


44 posted on 03/11/2016 8:02:24 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: discostu
The level of idiot paranoia this topic brings up is saddening.

And your naivete is troubling. Name one instance in which government's power has not expanded once created. And tell me that you believe for a second that these cars won't be "regulated" by the government.

The plan may not be for the gestapo to "take over your car and make you go someplace," but it may very well be to track where you DO go, and to STOP you from going certain places.

If you believe otherwise, you're living in a fool's paradise.

45 posted on 03/11/2016 8:02:47 AM PST by IronJack
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To: gridlock

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UBdrMTxsvs

HBO comedy series “Silicon Valley” and the driverless car.


46 posted on 03/11/2016 8:03:46 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: Fresh Wind; flaglady47

Great song.


47 posted on 03/11/2016 8:04:54 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Disambiguator

YES!!!


48 posted on 03/11/2016 8:07:27 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: IronJack

The only people talking about giving the government power on self driving vehicles are the people that are against the tech. Nobody developing the tech is doing ANY work with centralized controls. I have absolute certainty the government won’t be controlling the cars, logistically it’s just not doable. Even once the cars are smart enough to drive themselves, trying to control that many cars at once is a doomed idea.

This is the same foolishness I heard a decade ago when people insisted store loyalty cards would lead to government purchase monitoring and controls. 10+ years and those paranoid fantasies still haven’t happened. Same thing will occur with self driving cars. The paranoids will rant and rave and nothing will actually happen and 10 years later they’ll be ranting about something else and hoping nobody remembers when they got the car thing wrong just like they got the loyalty card wrong. Well I remember.


49 posted on 03/11/2016 8:18:03 AM PST by discostu (This unit not labeled for individual sale)
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To: loungitude

California by any chance?
A holes galore on our free ways.


50 posted on 03/11/2016 8:23:52 AM PST by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: discostu
I have absolute certainty the government won’t be controlling the cars, logistically it’s just not doable. Even once the cars are smart enough to drive themselves, trying to control that many cars at once is a doomed idea.


51 posted on 03/11/2016 8:25:04 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: gridlock

Right.

Let the car’s computer change that flat tire.


52 posted on 03/11/2016 8:29:15 AM PST by moovova
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To: gridlock

Summary

Underhill, a seller of "Mechanicals" (unthinking robots that perform menial tasks) in the small town of Two Rivers, is startled to find a competitor's store on his way home. The competitors are not humans but are small black robots who appear more advanced than anything Underhill has encountered before. They describe themselves as "Humanoids."

Disturbed at his encounter, Underhill rushes home to discover that his wife has taken in a new lodger, a mysterious old man named Sledge. In the course of the next day, the new mechanicals have appeared everywhere in town. They state that they only follow the Prime Directive: ''to serve and obey and guard men from harm". Offering their services free of charge, they replace humans as police officers, bank tellers, and more, and eventually drive Underhill out of business. Despite the Humanoids' benign appearance and mission, Underhill soon realizes that, in the name of their Prime Directive, the mechanicals have essentially taken over every aspect of human life. No humans may engage in any behavior that might endanger them, and every human action is carefully scrutinized. Suicide is prohibited. Humans who resist the Prime Directive are taken away and lobotomized, so that they may live happily under the direction of the humanoids.

Underhill learns that his lodger Sledge is the creator of the Humanoids and is on the run from them. Sledge explains that 60 years earlier he had discovered the force of "rhodomagnetics" on the planet Wing IV and that his discovery resulted in a war that destroyed his planet. In his grief, Sledge designed the humanoids to help humanity and be invulnerable to human exploitation. However, he eventually realized that they had instead taken control of humanity, in the name of their Prime Directive, to make humans happy.

The Humanoids are spreading out from Wing IV to every human occupied planet to implement their Prime Directive. Sledge and Underhill attempt to stop the humanoids by aiming a rhodomagnetic beam at Wing IV but fail. The humanoids take Sledge away for surgery. He returns with no memory of his prior life, stating that he is now happy under the humanoids' care. Underhill is driven home by the humanoids, sitting "with folded hands," as there is nothing left to do.

53 posted on 03/11/2016 8:30:11 AM PST by pabianice (LINE)
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To: lacrew
I agree - computerized cars cannot deal with strange situations...and the array of cameras and sensors could not function well on a dusty dirt road.

I could see the technology being used as a sort of "advanced cruise control". There would still be a driver behind the wheel who would retain ultimate responsibility to grab back control if needed.

54 posted on 03/11/2016 8:31:26 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (Big government is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: gridlock

I will go back to the horse before I ride in a driver-less car.


55 posted on 03/11/2016 8:34:10 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Fresh Wind

56 posted on 03/11/2016 8:35:58 AM PST by moovova
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To: Fresh Wind

Ooooh a big building. Meanwhile, back in reality, the government isn’t going to be able to remote control 100 million vehicles at the same time, no matter how many big building pictures you dig up.


57 posted on 03/11/2016 8:46:50 AM PST by discostu (This unit not labeled for individual sale)
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To: discostu

You don’t know what that building is?


58 posted on 03/11/2016 8:48:40 AM PST by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: Fresh Wind

I know what it is, doesn’t change the reality that remote controlling a vehicle is a LOT of MOVING data, multiply it by 100 million and it’s just not doable. It’s not about the storage, it’s about the throughput, and the processing. If we ever get computers fast enough in their data processing to actually do real climate models instead of highly simplified, that will be about 40% of the necessary tech to centrally control America’s vehicles.


59 posted on 03/11/2016 8:56:37 AM PST by discostu (This unit not labeled for individual sale)
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To: discostu
Store loyalty cards record all purchases on a centralized database. That database is accessible by a police state (by subpoena -- for the time being -- but who knows about the future?), which could then monitor every purchase you've made at that store.

The same thing with credit card transactions. They have been used in myriad cases to track behavior and location.

Do you think for a second that the same government that is tapping every single cell phone would not be able to do the same thing for every car on the road?

They wouldn't have to "take over" the car. They could simply create codes that designate certain locations as "off limits" or "high alert," and any vehicles entering those areas would be disabled (automatically) or at the very least tracked. The technology isn't inconceivable; in fact, it's so simple it's virtually inevitable.

And the capability will exist to set limits on speed, duration of drive, and even require entry of a code to use the vehicle -- a code which the government issues, of course.

All in the name of "the public good."

Paranoid? Not based on history, it's not.

60 posted on 03/11/2016 9:05:56 AM PST by IronJack
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