Posted on 03/08/2016 6:52:28 AM PST by Trumpinator
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It looks like "they" are behind on their "5 year plan" for this "ambitious vision of a new [North American] community". Me, personally, I like the old community of North America as three different and independent countries just fine. I am conservative that way.
Barry Soetoro/Barack Hussein Obama should be proof enough of the wisdom of the founders when they tried to prevent him from being President by requiring someone who could only be a US citizen and nothing else.
Born here of citizen parents.
Naturally a US citizen because there is no other possibility.
One cannot be anything else and also be a natural born citizen.
Obama told us he was born a British Subject.
Who believes Washington, Jefferson, Adams, Jay, Monroe, Madison, etc. would have found him to be a natural born citizen?
Usurpation Day, January 20, 2009, happened with the complete cooperation of both parties.
They want the Constitution changed without the hassle of amending the Constitution.
Confuse people about the clear meaning of a three word phrase and voila, every anchor baby and Winston Chrurchill is eligible.
The bench was the reason the GOP went along with the fig leaf resolution for McCain that was used by the Democrats as cover for Obama.
Jindal, Rubio, Haley and Cruz were all up and comers and the future of the party and ineligible.
I support Cruz, and I understand the dangerous implications of the charges. — How can you endure such cognitive dissonance?
http://www.cfr.org/.../building-north-american.../p8102
HEIDI S. CRUZ is an energy investment banker with Merrill Lynch in Houston, Texas. She served in the Bush White House under Dr. Condoleezza Rice as the Economic Director for the Western Hemisphere at the National Security Council, as the Director of the Latin America Office at the U.S. Treasury Department, and as Special Assistant to Ambassador Robert B. Zoellick, U.S. Trade Representative. Prior to government service, Ms. Cruz was an investment banker with J.P. Morgan in New York City.
“Special Assistant to Robert Zoellick” what did that mean?
“Robert Bruce Zoellick is a former U.S. trade representative, deputy secretary of state, president of the World Bank, and vice chairman of Goldman Sachs (2006-2007). As U.S. trade representative, Zoellick played a key role in the passage of the Central American Free Trade Agreement, the U.S.-Vietnam Free Trade Agreement, the Jordan Free Trade Agreement, and the restoration of fast track negotiating authority via the Trade Act of 2002. He was also a top U.S. negotiator during the General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) negotiations that lead to the formation of the World Trade Organization (WTO).””U.S. Trade Representative Prior, Zoellick was appointed United States Trade Representative and assumed office on February 7, 2001.
Read more
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/Robert_Bruce_Zoellick
Here is Heidi's contribution to the paper emphasizing the importance of private sector instead of goverment controls:
"We must emphasize the imperative that economic investment be led and perpetuated by the private sector. There is no force proven like the market for aligning incentives, sourcing capital, and producing results like financial markets and profit-making businesses. This is simply necessary to sustain a higher living standard for the poorest among us — truly the measure of our success. As such, investment fundsand financing mechanisms should be deemed attractive instruments by those committing the capital and should only be developed in conjunction with market participants."
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Mexico is a feudal, peasant society. Heidi & Co. think that blending illiterate peasants from head-chopping Mexico and the middle east into our neighborhoods will be a good thing?
But a good thing for who? What has Rubio (the other Cuban) won? Minnesota and Puerto Rico. How is making Canada and America like peasant central American in any way a good thing?
How does emphasizing the private part of that discount the ‘conspiracy’?
It’s big business that’s pushing to eliminate borders.
“THE OLIGARCHS’ SUPER-PAC ANTI-TRUMP SAVAGERY”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3406407/posts
“Fully 116 members of the GOP’s national security community, many of them veterans of Bush administrations, have signed an open letter threatening that, if Trump is nominated, they will all desert, and some will defect – to Hillary Clinton!
“Hillary is the lesser evil, by a large margin,” says Eliot Cohen of the Bush II State Department. According to Politico’s Michael Crowley, Cohen helped line up neocons to sign the “Dump-Trump” manifesto.”
It is absolutely MIND BOGGLING to me that people ignore this. Or think somehow, Cruz is like Andy Taylor from Mayberry just LOVING him some baseball, the constitution and apple pie.
Not enough to join with them, though -- they would only bring us down to their left-wing marxist level. USA is unique in all the world for its Bill of Rights, which the Commonwealth doesn'thave. They still have a Queen, a rabid homosexualist movement, lots of muslim appeasement and terrible suppression of speech rights, including having jailed pastors for reading the parts about homosexuality from the Bible in church. The only thing we have in common is language and founding racial stock; but even that is politically incorrect.
“If one of your parents is a US citizen, then you are natural-born. The actual place where you were born is irrelevant.”
Then, by your logic, Ted Cruz is a Natural Born Citizen of Cuba.
Oh... Did you really think that natural born citizen thingy only applied to this country? No, it’s a concept that applies to all nations.
Born in Figi to two Figian citizen parents? If so, you’re a natural born citizen of Figi, and can’t be anything else.
Information received and understood. My only concern now is that with all of the think tanks out there why- a. be chosen, or b. accept the offer to the CFR?
There are numerous logic paths to figure this out, your’s being yet another. Another possibility- Born on a space station, natural born to every country in the world.
“What posting is nonsense?” Yours!
Cruz doesn’t have a relationship with the CFR anymore than Trump has a relationship with the mafia. Both have been alleged and both are nonsense, as are many of the other allegations against both men.
Here is part of Mrs. Cruz’s dissenting opinion on the report, which places emphasis not on the governments of the U.S., Canada and Mexico, but on private enterprise and free trade:
“I support the Task Force report and its recommendations aimed at building a safer and more prosperous North America. Economic prosperity and a world safe from terrorism and other security threats are no doubt inextricably linked.”
This is the dissenting part...
“While governments play an invaluable role in both regards, we must emphasize the imperative that economic investment be led and perpetuated by the private sector. There is no force proven like the market for aligning incentives, sourcing capital, and producing results like financial markets and profit-making businesses. This is simply necessary to sustain a higher living standard for the poorest among us — truly the measure of our success. As such, investment funds and financing mechanisms should be deemed attractive instruments by those committing the capital and should only be developed in conjunction with market participants.” Heidi S. Cruz
I have a very good friend who’s a retired Army general and was a term member of the CFR. He attempted to influence the CFR in a positive way and failed. He’s now one of their biggest critics and every bit as patriotic and conservative as anyone I know. Does that make him a globalist too?
This idiocy of drawing entirely unsupported specific conclusions from general information has gotten completely out of hand. So Cruz’s wife works/worked for Goldman Sachs and makes damned good money there. So what? Do you support everything your employer supports or believes? Can you identify one single thing Cruz or his wife have said or written that tells you conclusively that they’re globalists?
Trump undeniably hired illegals in the construction of Trump Tower to avoid hiring union labor and paying pension fund contributions. Does that mean he’s lying about his opposition to illegal immigration? He made contributions to the Clintons campaign and their foundation and they came to his wedding. Does that mean he’s secretly running interference for Hillary to get her elected? Of course not!
Ted Cruz is a free trader. ‘Nuff said.
All understand about CFR...however I think quite possible a good idea working within their organization.....as well as others one might not agree with,..... in fact actually oppose, as you can always be on top of what they are doing and affect the outcome or at least try to.
It’s no secret it’s far more important to “stop” something from being enacted than it is to “pass” something.
In any case Trump would implement policies that would end illegal labor - so charging that Trump once had illegals on a job site is meaningless.
Cruz will continue NAFTA and continue free trade polices per globalization open borders ideology. So will Clinton and so will Rubio.
What's Figi? Sounds like pudding. But if you're born in the hills of Fiji, you can become a naturalized citizen of the US.
Great question and I’ll do my best to answer it. First of all, I don’t consider the CFR to be just a think tank. Members of the CFR, like the Trilateral Commission, the Bilderbergers and others, use their “studies” (most of which are contrived) in an attempt to influence policy and further their aims.
As to the essence of your questions:
a) Why be chosen? These organizations attempt to recruit and influence people with various viewpoints and positions. Sometimes, they’re successful in “turning” them and sometimes not.
b) Why accept? I was asked this question a number of times during my government service, particularly while I was detailed to the Bush White House. My reply was always something to the effect of, “I have a rare opportunity to influence policy and do so from a conservative and constitutional perspective. If everyone in this room believed that more and bigger government were the solution to everything that ails us, we’d be in a helluva lot worse shape than we are.” I positively influenced a few policy decisions and failed on some others, but I had my chance to have a voice in an administration that was actually receptive to dissenting opinions. I know a few people who have had the same experience with the CFR.
Cheers!
“Born on a space station, natural born to every country in the world.”
That’s completely illogical.
The concept of natural born citizenship means that a person is innately and fundamentally bound to ONE nation, and NO OTHER, by their circumstance of birth.
Someone born off planet would inherit the citizenship of their parents, but they would not be natural born of their parents’ home country.
As long as it’s possible to consider that person to be a citizen of any other political union or physical territory (outer space, in this hypothetical case), they’re not natural born to any country.
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