Posted on 03/05/2016 2:57:56 PM PST by nickcarraway
Men should have the same right as women to decide not be parents, according to a controversial new proposal from the Liberal Party’s youth wing in western Sweden (LUF Väst).
Men who don’t want to become fathers should be permitted to have a “legal abortion” up to the 18th week of a woman’s pregnancy, say the young liberals.
The cut-off date coincides with the last week in which a woman can terminate a pregnancy in Sweden.
“This means a man would renounce the duties and rights of parenthood,” LUF Väst chairman Marcus Nilsen told The Local.
By signing up for a “legal abortion” then, a man would not have to pay maintenance for his child, but neither would he have any right to meet the child.
The group believes “legal abortion” for men would promote equality between the sexes in the early stages of a pregnancy, giving men a chance to opt out. Women would also benefit if they knew from the get-go whether a man was willing to commit to parenthood, the young liberals say.
Asked how a mother would explain to a child later in life what had happened to its father, Nilsen said:
“This situation already exists, with single women who choose to inseminate or simply don’t know who the father is.”
He added: “We wouldn’t want to make this something that was subject to secrecy. A mother could say: ‘I consider this man to be your father, but legally he is not’.”
Some social media users have welcomed the plan but many have ridiculed it and Nilsen said the group had received a flurry of threats.
“One man wrote on Facebook that all our members should be put against a wall and shot.”
Johanna Frändén, a popular sports writer, was a lot more welcoming.
“I think I’m of the view that this is actually quite sensible,” she wrote on Twitter.
Ivar Arpi, an influential leader writer with the Svenska Dagbladet daily, disagreed.
“No, men shouldn’t be able to have legal abortions. Men should take responsibility for their children. Period.”
Ivar Arpi, an influential leader writer with the Svenska Dagbladet daily, disagreed.
“No, men shouldn’t be able to have legal abortions. Men should take responsibility for their children. Period.”
Much of the criticism accused the young Liberals of misogyny, something Nilsen was quick to reject.
“This motion was actually put forward at our annual meeting by a group of girls,” he said.
Nilsen added that the group was unlikely to take the plan any further.
“It’s something we thought was worthy of debate but the reactions have been overwhelmingly conservative, with a lot of people viewing it as an attack on the nuclear family. We have other issues we're prioritizing such as housing and employment.”
The idea comes on the heels of two proposals last month that got tongues wagging: The young Liberals’ Stockholm branch said it wanted to legalize sibling incest for over-15s and to permit “consensual” necrophilia in cases where the deceased had written post-life sex requests into a will.
A senior member of the mother party, Carl B. Hamilton, called the youngsters idiots and wondered if “sex with hippos” would be next on the agenda.
Makes sense to me. As long as women get a choice men should too.
Men can do that now. After 18 years of garnished wages they are home free with no birth pains.
They can also keep it in their pants or borrow some galoshes from PP.
More “rights” to be irresponsible.
You have to admit it - liberalism is much more fun than conservatism... at least in the short term.
“And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!”
Kipling.
Can women do that to? Why would you tell them to go to Planned Parenthood.
Good luck with that one.
Women can keep it in their pants or use protection. No difference. In takes two to tango unless you are islamic and then it’s rape.
You post says the responsibility is all men. And it’s in Planned Parenthood’s vested interest to get paid for abortions, so I think your giving them credit is highly misguided.
I can’t say I’m a fan of the idea, but if women are going to have that right, then men should generally have some sort of recourse as well.
“On the first Feminian Sandstones we were promised the Fuller Life
(Which started by loving our neighbour and ended by loving his wife)
Till our women had no more children and the men lost reason and faith,
And the Gods of the Copybook Headings said: ‘The Wages of Sin is Death.’”
Actually, this is an incredibly clever way to cut down on abortions...
“Babe, I’m sorry, but I’m gonna have to demand that you get an abortion because I’m just not ready to be a father. I’ve set up an appointment for you at Planned Parenthood on Monday at 9am.”
“What you talking about, sucker? It’ll be a cold day in Hades before you make me get an abortion. I’M DEMANDING you go get a job and start giving me a check every month cause I’M HAVING THIS BABY!”
It used to be said that the biggest abortion boosters of all were single cavaliers under the age of 35. Then Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Anthony Kennedy wanted to get in on the act too.
Because every child needs at least one parent who wants him dead ...
For some reason, the American people don't believe this.
I believe perhaps I did not make myself clear.
Both the male and female are responsible for any impregnation.
Either one could just say no or wear protection. My assumption was one or more were too stupid to know the repercussions and may need to use a free service such as PP.
PP was a reference, not an endorsement.
A recap ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c931dQ2UnNA&index=11&list=RDiY1SDW3AB-4
Very clever.
Well, sadly Planned Parenthood and condemns cause more abortions, not less. You can’t just listen to P.R.
There are at least two cases in the U.S. where a couple who hired a surrogate to have a baby are trying to force the surrogate to have an abortion. It’s only a matter of time before a court does the forcing...
Graveyard humor.
Why do they have to kill the child? Couldn’t one or the other parent sell him on the international adoption market? There would be a very high price if both parents were ethnic Swedes.
Put another way, women have the right to murder someone that inconveniences them. Why shouldn’t men have the same right? Equal protection and all that...
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