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To: JohnBovenmyer
Such a wordy retort for 2 simple questions. And you intentionally omitted half of what I said.

This is the quote: "Well that was hundreds of years before the high roller disciples of deceit ruled over D.C. No?"

Get it right.

Btw, you speak of Trump in regards to gambling? Small change. What do ya think those in DC did with the American treasure? Those reckless crooks got us into more debt than all the billionaires on the planet x1000.

133 posted on 03/04/2016 8:45:16 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2
Get it right yourself. I wasn't talking about Cruz. I was pointing out how over the top was the post to which I'd responded. Then you come in with a fancy statement using a reference I'd never seen before, "the high roller disciples of deceit" and dated the reference "hundreds of years before [Abe.] Technically Abe was not "hundreds" of years ago and his pictured statue is less than 100 years old so your quote is technically incorrect. I also pointed out there has been corruption and overspending in DC for virtually its entire history. Ask any opposition party spokesman throughout history. Although a rough character, Old Hickory, did pay off the prior debt. America's once greatness is historically unique. Merely blowing up the present won't restore it. The only model for restoring it is in her history: what worked and how she was broken. Problems really took off when TR's ego blocked Taft's re-election and let in Wilson and his constitutional deconstruction. Starting roughly one hundred years ago.

I'm well aware of my periodic sin of 'wordiness,' but can't seem to conquer it. I feel an attack coming, continue reading at your own peril. As a casino operator I have no complaints with Trump. There is, allegedly, smoke regarding him as a casino builder and a casino financier, but none that I'm aware off as a casino operator. But Trump seems to prefer leading with others of his accomplishments and I'm willing that preference. I thought his supporters would too, hence my comment on your gambling metaphor. There is no shortage of Donald to praise or critique without discussing the gambling.

Now I agree we're obscenely in debt and most of both parties are to blame. I don't think anyone is thinking big enough for its solution. If the reason for having Trump is he's the biggest and best wrecking ball I wish he'd aim that at entitlements. The numbers don't work with out drastic reforms there.

I'm for a sink or swim aproach to reeducating the welfare class into a working class: end the food support, the country needs a diet. End the cash welfare for health adults, minimize unemployment insurance and end the minimum wage. Those with minimum skills might not make much, but they'll be able to make something and will be motivated to gain skills. Return housing and heating support to the states. Audit the heck out of disability eligibility.

Build the wall, disqualify illegals from all federal aid, enforce laws against hiring illegals and shut down the visa overstays. We'll have all the cheap labor we need—if the former welfare class wants to eat. If they are as good as they brag they are they'll grow into a real middle class in time.

Our seven richest counties should be no where near DC. De-authorize federal employee unions. Shut down tons of government alphabet soup and cut the pay and benefits to private standards for most of the rest.

Privatize college loans, end the regulations requiring them to be administrative monstrosities, much of the federal research budget and let the liberal meccas collapse under their own wait down to something useful. There are alleged to be a bunch of smart folks there. Let them figure out how to make themselves work and how to produce a useful work product at an affordable cost! Get the feds out of primary education and end all the federal strings regarding that on the states. Privatize social security, at least for those not at or near retirement age. Get the feds out of healthcare, at least for those not nearly retired or disabled. It will be cheaper and better without all the federal strings. Return the responsibility for healthcare to the poor to the states without federal strings.

Start selling of federal land in the west, but prudently so as to get good value. Remove nearly all the corrupt tax deductions and put in a low flat tax. Aim for lower revenue so as to grow the economy, but for at least a small surplus after all the spending cuts.

Defense spending will need to grow someone, given that we're de facto at war, the other side doesn't want to stop now and all the damage Obama has done to our current military. But given the relatively small proportion of current GDP now devoted to defense that can be paid for through the social spending cuts. But get rid of the PC waste there and the PC rules of engagement. Let potential enemies know we'll spend money to minimize our casualties, but not to minimize theirs. Those supporting our enemies are also our enemies and don't deserve our protection. When we beat them they should feel beaten and not want to fight us ever again.

142 posted on 03/04/2016 11:51:13 PM PST by JohnBovenmyer (Obama been R Liberal. Hope Changed)
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To: dragnet2

Trump supporters seem to like short messages, sprinlkled with foul words.

It’s how Trump talks and they like it that way.

Thinking isn’t necessary.


156 posted on 03/05/2016 4:47:13 AM PST by kinsman redeemer (The real enemy seeks to devour what is good.)
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