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To: Yosemitest
The Naturalization Act of 1790, let's read it !

Not so fast on your Great Constitution Guru, Yosemite


1790 Naturalization Act:
"..And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens..."

1795 Naturalization Act:
"...the children of citizens of the United States, born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, shall be considered as citizens of the United States..."


Found this awhile back:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3381700/posts?page=110#110

The 1795 Naturalization Act dropped "natural born" status for children born abroad. Washington signed both pieces of legislation so there must have been a reason for the change.

You were right, sr_ss, and it came right from the pen of James Madison, the author of the US Constitution.

NEW EVIDENCE: Intent of 1790 Naturalization Act

SYNOPSIS:

1) In 1969 Pinckney McElwee uncovered evidence in the House Committee notes from 1795 which indicate that the reason the reference to natural born citizen (NBC), included in the 1790 Naturalization Act, but entirely removed from the 1795 Naturalization Act, was that people would wrongly infer that that Act was actually intending that those born overseas outside the country were to become natural born citizens. Clearly Madison was not wanting to make natural born citizens of the children born overseas to American parents. On June 14, 1967, Representative John Dowdy introduced McElwee’s unpublished article, “Natural Born Citizen” (pg 10), on the House floor, to the U.S. House of Representatives. Until recently, the import of this evidence has been largely unrecognized.

Largely unrecognized until now when it is precisely relevant to this political season.


NEW EVIDENCE: Intent of 1790 Naturalization Act


Here is the text of the 1790 Naturalization Act:
And the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born citizens: Provided, That the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been resident in the United States

1795 Naturalization Act text change:

, and the children of citizens of the United States born out of the limits and jurisdiction of the United States, shall be considered as citizens of the United States. Provided, that the right of citizenship shall not descend on persons whose fathers have never been resident of the United States.

James Madison had written "shall be considered as natural born citizens" He did not say, shall be as natural born citizens. In the revised act that abolished the first he corrected his own text to make it less susceptible to misinterpretation.

You Guru is wrong.   And you know Dude, Cruz ain't bona fide.   Just saying.

29 posted on 03/03/2016 11:06:23 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - voted Trump 2016 & Dude, Cruz ain't bona fide)
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To: higgmeister
You're sill pushing that John Vernard DowdyCRAP.
This garbage is so hilarious, Try again, LOSER !
33 posted on 03/03/2016 11:22:42 PM PST by Yosemitest (It's SIMPLE ! ... Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Bubba Gump Shrimp; NKP_Vet; BlackFemaleArmyCaptain; freedomjusticeruleoflaw; tophat9000; ...
See my # 29
38 posted on 03/03/2016 11:33:01 PM PST by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - voted Trump 2016 & Dude, Cruz ain't bona fide)
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To: higgmeister

Thanks!


43 posted on 03/03/2016 11:47:16 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel (I am so very blessed! Thank You, JESUS!)
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