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Congress showed it's willing to fight the FBI on encryption. Finally
The Guardian ^ | 1 March 2016 | Trevor Timm

Posted on 03/02/2016 7:16:33 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon

Members of Congress did something almost unheard of at Tuesday’s hearing on the brewing battle over encryption between Apple and the FBI: their job. Both Democrats and Republicans grilled FBI director Jim Comey about his agency’s unprecedented demand that Apple weaken the iPhone’s security protections to facilitate surveillance. This would have dire implications for smartphone users around the globe.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apple; crypto; fbi; security
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1 posted on 03/02/2016 7:16:33 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Make no mistake.
If Trump and Cruz weren’t winning the primaries, Congress would not be doing their jobs.
Trust me - they are letting the donor class and the elites know that once the GE is completed and either their man Hillary or their man Rubio/Bush win the White House, it will again be business as usual.
Loss of power through the vote is the only thing they understand.


2 posted on 03/02/2016 7:19:23 AM PST by mabelkitty
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Just tell them that their is 501(c)(3) paperwork to start a local Tea Party on that phone and Apple will open it up faster than crap through a goose...


3 posted on 03/02/2016 7:21:03 AM PST by taildragger (Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Comey must be able to do his job or we’ll never be able to prosecute and convict corrupt left wing radicals like the Clintons and the Obamas. If Republicans work with the Democrats against Comey, it’ll never happen.


4 posted on 03/02/2016 7:21:37 AM PST by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: mabelkitty
If Trump and Cruz weren’t winning the primaries, Congress would not be doing their jobs.

Exactly. And Obama's SCOTUS nominee would be getting measured for a robe if not already at the bench "for the good of the country"
5 posted on 03/02/2016 7:23:19 AM PST by LostPassword
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To: equaviator

Any investigative powers which are allowed because We’ll Only Use This Against Terrorists, We Promise!! will, sooner than later, be used against political opponents.


6 posted on 03/02/2016 7:26:59 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon (Will Trump's inaugural address be longer than 140 characters??)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

But, but, but I thought if you side with Apple, then you’re siding with the terrorists?


7 posted on 03/02/2016 7:28:07 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo
The first duty of government is to defend our freedoms.

The second duty is to defend us from foreign attack.

In that order.

8 posted on 03/02/2016 7:31:02 AM PST by Eric Pode of Croydon (Will Trump's inaugural address be longer than 140 characters??)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

The politicians only care about lining their pockets. If the do something good for society it’s only because they were forced to not because they wanted to. The Clinton Crime Family is the best example of the ultimate politicians. They have no concerns about the country or selling government secrets as long as they get millions for it.


9 posted on 03/02/2016 7:34:34 AM PST by seawolf101
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.[78]

Seems to have never been heard of by our current government.

10 posted on 03/02/2016 7:42:05 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerThen ous enemy)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Snowden’s Millenial Fanboys are now a potent political force.


11 posted on 03/02/2016 7:44:34 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

Comey looked like Lois Lerner before congress. He didn’t know anything, no I didn’t, no I don’t know what that is, no no no. I don’t know.

The FBI does not want that one phone opened; that would be done for them by Apple. The FBI wants the key to open any iphones they want to. This is directed by Obama/dems IMO.


12 posted on 03/02/2016 7:48:02 AM PST by Hattie
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

And here I’ve been slammed over and over for siding with Apple here on FR. Maybe the tide is turning towards reason?


13 posted on 03/02/2016 7:50:40 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: taildragger
Just tell them that their is 501(c)(3) paperwork to start a local Tea Party on that phone and Apple will open it up faster than crap through a goose...

So you think Apple would design a new system that would compromise every one of their new phones?

14 posted on 03/02/2016 7:53:59 AM PST by Ken H
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To: from occupied ga

No, the FBI is obviously following the Fourth Amendment.
Apple is selling a device that makes a valid Fourth Amendment warrant useless.
Also it affects other constitutional rights such as the right to compel testimony in one’s defense useless.
Not a good thing!

But encryption isn’t going away, so some solution must be found.
One that keeps our rights I hope.


15 posted on 03/02/2016 7:56:26 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith
Apple is selling a device that makes a valid Fourth Amendment warrant useless.

So does the company that makes Bic lighters.

16 posted on 03/02/2016 8:01:21 AM PST by Ken H
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To: Ken H

Ha! Not bad!

It could be proven that one destroyed evidence with a lighter- which is a crime, and may be held against you by a jury (not sure about that).

It’s the convenience and ease of encryption that makes the difference.
The Fourth could always be evaded by extraordinary means, this makes the means un-extraordinary indeed. Any idiot can do it easily.


17 posted on 03/02/2016 8:10:44 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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To: mrsmith
No, the FBI is obviously following the Fourth Amendment.

Jaw hits floor at this point

Apple is selling a device that makes a valid Fourth Amendment warrant useless

Not really - ever heard of PGP - same argument.


18 posted on 03/02/2016 8:13:48 AM PST by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerThen ous enemy)
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To: Eric Pode of Croydon

I don’t consider it a first-second type of thing.

Defending us from enemies (foreign AND domestic) is a significant portion of defending our freedoms, IMO.


19 posted on 03/02/2016 8:14:18 AM PST by MortMan (Let's call the push for amnesty what it is: Pedrophilia.)
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To: from occupied ga

Well, if you don’t think getting a warrant is obviously following the Fourth Amendment, we’ll just have to differ.


20 posted on 03/02/2016 8:15:37 AM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat/RINO Party!)
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