Model of the aircraft carrier project 23000E at the «Army 2015» exhibition. Source: wikipedia.org/Artem Tkachenko
More a Russian wish than anything else!
Posted on 03/02/2016 5:43:48 AM PST by sukhoi-30mki
The design of the nuclear aircraft carrier project 23000E "Storm" could form the base to build a ship of a similar class for the Indian Navy. This decision will be made during a forthcoming tender process in Delhi. The Indian Navy seeks to get an aircraft carrier with a displacement of 65 thousand tons, one that is 300 m in length, and 70 m wide, equipped with a nuclear power plant. And although the United States and France are participating in the technology race, according to "Izvestia", the Russian proposal is leading the race.
The Project USS 23000E aircraft carrier (“Storm" code) is still in its model form. The concept of the ship was developed in the Krylovsky research centre jointly with the Nevsky product engineering company. It was first displayed at the "Army-2015" exhibition in the framework of the Navy exposition. According to the sailors, the ship has a displacement of 100 tons, is 300 m in length, 40 m in width and can accommodate a crew of four to five thousand people to perform combat missions at sea, of up to 6-7 points. The aircraft wing craft will contain up to 100 airborne devices of various classes.
There are two runways on the deck; a "big" one and a "smaller" one. One of them is a "classic" one with a "springboard", the second one is a flat one, like on American aircraft carriers. There are also aircraft and helicopters of at least five different types that are attached to the stern and the bow. These are carrier-based fighters T-50, MiG-29K / KUB, long-range radar detection aircrafts, AEW (AWACS), presumably the Yak-44E – as it was explained to “Izvestia", they are expected to rise and fly in the air along the shorter deck using electromagnetic catapults, as well as helicopters.
While developing the preliminary design, the Krylovsky centre proposed an original body for this ship; the best from the point of view of resistance, said Valery Polovinkin, Advisor to the General Director of FSUE, "Krylov State Research Centre." Its form and its deck are designed to have the best possible aircraft fleet with a limited displacement and major dimensions.
The designer said that, according to preliminary estimates, the resistance to the movement of the ship will be about 30% less than the traditional contour of the body. This aircraft carrier allows the latest generation of aircrafts and helicopters to take off even during a storm. Both trampolines and catapults are provided for airplanes. Under the flight deck and in the optimized superstructures there are power plants and nuclear power plants of the latest combination.
The Russian project fits well with the concept of the Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi’s "Make in India," naval analyst Alexander Mozgovoy informed the "News". The purpose of the programme is to transform India into an industrial country, increasing the share of industry in the GDP from 15 to 25%, with the help of government assistance programmes. At present Moscow is the only partner which is ready to transfer to Delhi both the weapons and technology systems, and the technology for their development and production.
Mozgovoy recalls that the United States has never transferred its own developments to anyone.
Russia and India already have a joint carrier design project, he said. Last year, an aircraft carrier was launched on the Cochin shipyard, built according to the 71 "Vikrant" design, developed with the help of the Russian Nevsky Design Bureau, as well as the Italian shipbuilding association Fincantieri. The ship’s displacement is 37.5 tons, length - 262 m and the maximum width (on the flight deck) is 60 m. The gas turbine power plant of 80 MW is to provide a travel speed of 28 knots.
The ship uses the STOBAR circuit (Short Take-Off But Arrested Recovery), providing a springboard takeoff and landing on the corner deck via arresting gear. The structure of its air group will include up to 14 MiG-29K / KUB and Tejas aircrafts, and around 10 helicopters. According to the Indian military estimates, 50% of "Vikrant’s" technical equipment and 30% of its arms were designed by Indian experts. The aviation systems and technical equipment of the ship, according to the deputy director of "Rosoboronexport" Victor Komardina, were designed and manufactured in Russia.
According to Kozyulin, it is this combination of factors that speak in favour of the Russian project. The "Storm" deck is designed for the deployment of the MiG-29K. There are likely to be Russian-Indian fighter of the 5th generation FGFA in future. A deck version of the aircraft is also likely to be built, with the Russian Defence Ministry even announcing the project. It is difficult to assume that, having invested $ 25 billion in a joint project, New Delhi will resist the temptation to deploy the most modern machines on the deck.
The article is abridged. Read the full version in Russian in Izvestia.
Model of the aircraft carrier project 23000E at the «Army 2015» exhibition. Source: wikipedia.org/Artem Tkachenko
More a Russian wish than anything else!
You’d think that last f****g they got from the Russians would have learned ‘em something
The designer said that, according to preliminary estimates, the resistance to the movement of the ship will be about 30% less than the traditional contour of the body.
30%???
Every navy’s dream.
Hahaha.
As a basis of comparison, the new Royal Navy carriers, the Queen Elizabeth Class, displace 70,000 tons. The new USN Ford Class displaces 100 K tons.
The Indians just keep going back to the same junk pile hoping to find a keeper.
That was as much the fault of India for not holding Russia’s feet closer to the fire on the build, especially the boiler insulation (does Russia not know about rock wool?).
India still has a lot to learn about defense procurement in the big leagues, and buying and refitting a capital ship is a lot different than ordering some down-level OTS helicopters or leftover troop carriers. Ships are pretty much bespoke construction, especially something like a carrier, and that goes double for this one because it is one of only two.
I would think that building a ship 300 meters long, 40 meters wide, with a crew of up to 5000 and 100 aircraft on a displacement of 100 tons would be a every navy's dream.
They had a decent amount of success using Russian land warfare systems, and Russia and India have worked together for years. That’s probably a big part of why they keep going back to Russia first when they go shopping.
Conventional carriers are cheaper to operate, crew training is much easier, damage control easier, more survivable, and cost less to build. Once on station a conventional CV has the exact same mission capabilities as nuclear carrier.
There is a long list of Russian weapon systems, aircraft, and ships that have given the Indians fits. Might still be the best fit for them.
Not quite. CVNs have a lot more fuel and ordnance capacity for their aircraft, freeing them up to maneuver without their tankers in tow.
Because the Russians have so much experience at carrier design, contruction, and operation.
Probably not a good decision.
Am I detecting a Split Island on that Carrier?
Wonder who they copied that idea from......
What are Indian naval requirements?
1. They need to secure the Indian Ocean from Chinese incursion.
2. They need to secure their own sea lines of communication, especially for oil from the Persian Gulf, from Pakistan and prevent the Pakistani navy from projecting power to India’s shores.
#1 could be accomplished with a sizeable SU-27 and P-8 base on Greater Nicobar island, controlling the exit of the Malacca Strait and several submarines at the Sunda Strait. A carrier would be a plus for both situations, but not a hard requirement.
#2 can be handled with a combination of India based aircraft and IN surface vessels. Again, a carrier would be a plus, but not a must.
The bow catapults on the model are interesting. They don’t look like full launching catapults like the French and we use, but rather boosters to get the aircraft up to some speed before hitting the ski jump.
Fascinating hybrid concept. Allows for higher launch loads, but also allows lighter aircraft to still be launched by deck run alone if the booster catapults break.
Maybe the Indians did learn something. The article seems to indicate that the Indians will buy the design, but build the ship themselves.
Every 4 days those screening ships need to refuel, it is called UNREP. The CVN doesn't just go off and leave her escort and operate independently. No, in transit she slows down and waits for UNREP evolution to finish. I'd rather build two CVs instead of one CVN. The whole nuclear carrier thing is just a BS admiral pissing contest.
A nuclear reactor is just an exotic way to boil water and to make steam. For subs this makes sense, for CVs totally stupid idea.
Izvestia says it so it must be true!
Likely also have a 50+ knots capability, until the put it in the water. Russian equipment is always the best until it needs to work.
I guess you never stood on deck and watched the CVN unrep fuel to her escorts, because she had the extra capacity to do so.
Don’t talk smack to someone that spent more time on short final behind the boat than you did reading about unreps. ;-)
And as they always have, AKs do not cruise with the strike group. They position behind it and move up quickly (or the strike group drops back quickly) to unrep.
Its not that CVNs do away with the need for support ships, its that because they don’t need as many of them or to unrep as often, they have more freedom of movement.
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