Posted on 03/02/2016 3:32:34 AM PST by cotton1706
Unfortunately, I think you’re right. Trump will lose the general.
CRUZ: Now, a number of Republicans are going to maintain that, no, no, no, no, no, their vote to cut off debate is in support of the House bill. And, Rush, that's simply not the case. It's a show vote. Now, if Harry Reid gets 60 votes, every Republican then will vote against his amendment to fund Obamacare, and so all 46 Republicans want to go home to their districts and say, "Gosh, I voted to defund Obamacare, and marvel of marvels, we lost," which to be honest is the outcome that I think more than a few of them affirmatively desire. And part of what's so problematic with Washington is how many Republicans want a show vote to pretend to their constituents they're fighting for what they say they're fighting for, rather than actually fighting for it and actually winning.
RUSH: Well, that's it. That's it in a nutshell right there. I mean that's the whole point. I mean, when you were running for Senate, you probably thought you were joining a lot of people that were like you, wanted to stop this. You get there, you find out you're one of three or four.
CRUZ: I will tell you the single biggest surprise in arriving to the Senate is the defeatist attitude here. I mean, we don't even talk about how to win a fight. There's no discussion. We talk about, "Hey, let's get a show vote so we can go tell our constituents we're doing something." But I promise you, Rush, if you had to sit through one Senate lunch, you'd be in therapy for a month.
RUSH: (laughing).
CRUZ: I don't know that you could -- as bad as you might think it is, and, listen, these are good men and women. I respect them. I like them. Many of these are my friends, but they've been here a long time, and they're beaten down, and they don't believe we can win. They don't believe it can happen, and the answer they say on every issue is, "No, we can't do it. We can't do it."
You said...
“So maybe its not an issue thing that flavor of conservative or liberal is not part of the equation? Maybe hes just not one of them, hes of the wrong class? It boils down to bigotry, then. Maybe they see the biggest threat to themselves and their system would be to allow the public to get the idea that they can elect someone from outside the club regardless of his position on any issue.”
I agree with what you said and I’ll add to what you said a little bit and tell me what you think.
Jeb was supposed to the nominee to go against Hillary. That’s why he said he would win the nomination without the base(lol). That way, even if he loses, the GOPe still wins. They can keep on doing what they are doing. Well, as we know, that hasn’t worked out that way. If there was no Trump, Cruz would be the nominee and the GOPe would go down the next in line for a candidate to back. When people are about to lose power, or even think they are about to lose power, they do irrational things. That’s what you’re seeing now. They can’t risk the possibility that Trump will upset their apple carts.
However, there’s a risk. If Trump is elected and becomes a disaster, that will entrench and embolden the GOPe.
I will say this, if there’s one person who can fight Hillary on her level, it’s Trump...lol
I've begun seeing our federal government as a machine. The politicians have set it up so they really do not have to decide much of anything. They've invented bureaucracies that do the heavy lifting ... and those continue on regardless of the bureaucrats who come and go. Think BORG.
I think Jeb or Hillary would serve the machine satisfactorily, so, regardless of who wins and whatever letter is on their jerseys, the game continues and their world is good.
And what you say makes sense. If Trump is elected and does poorly (as I suspect most of the ruling class will make it their life's mission to bring about), they can smugly say, “see, you need the establishment to do this job. Never question us again.” Kind of like how conservatism was kicked to the curb after Goldwater.
Presumably all they really want of Cruz is to lose. I'm surprised they haven't yet turned to Kasich. I figured this was why he continues to hang in there. How embarrassing for him if they bring in Mitt rather than turn to one who is already running! On the Dem side, I figured O’Malley would stay around as a sanitized alternative to Bern or Hill — but I was wrong on that one.
Certainly shows that they don’t work for us little people that elect them.
Rush claimed to be surprised for the establishment (Lindsay Graham quote) to choose Cruz over Trump because, he claims, Cruz never ever bows his head to the establishment.
Except when it comes to voting, as in TPA, Corker bill, H-1B visas, lobbying for increased immigration, etc.
Of course, Rush has blocked that out of his mind.
Last night, Brit Hume claimed that Trump would have a good night if he achieved 250 delegates.
Today, Rush has moved the marker up to 300. And says that Trump didn’t really sweep things like it was thought.
Rush still being devious.
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