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Lindsey Graham: Oh God, We Might Have To Back Ted Cruz To Save Our Party
huffingtonpost.com ^ | 3/1/16 | Jennifer Bendery

Posted on 03/02/2016 3:32:34 AM PST by cotton1706

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To: Jukeman

Unfortunately, I think you’re right. Trump will lose the general.


101 posted on 03/02/2016 6:48:03 AM PST by subterfuge (TED CRUZ FOR POTUS!)
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To: lodi90
Senator Cruz Continues the Filibuster on EIB ... September 25, 2013

CRUZ: Now, a number of Republicans are going to maintain that, no, no, no, no, no, their vote to cut off debate is in support of the House bill. And, Rush, that's simply not the case. It's a show vote. Now, if Harry Reid gets 60 votes, every Republican then will vote against his amendment to fund Obamacare, and so all 46 Republicans want to go home to their districts and say, "Gosh, I voted to defund Obamacare, and marvel of marvels, we lost," which to be honest is the outcome that I think more than a few of them affirmatively desire. And part of what's so problematic with Washington is how many Republicans want a show vote to pretend to their constituents they're fighting for what they say they're fighting for, rather than actually fighting for it and actually winning.

RUSH: Well, that's it. That's it in a nutshell right there. I mean that's the whole point. I mean, when you were running for Senate, you probably thought you were joining a lot of people that were like you, wanted to stop this. You get there, you find out you're one of three or four.

CRUZ: I will tell you the single biggest surprise in arriving to the Senate is the defeatist attitude here. I mean, we don't even talk about how to win a fight. There's no discussion. We talk about, "Hey, let's get a show vote so we can go tell our constituents we're doing something." But I promise you, Rush, if you had to sit through one Senate lunch, you'd be in therapy for a month.

RUSH: (laughing).

CRUZ: I don't know that you could -- as bad as you might think it is, and, listen, these are good men and women. I respect them. I like them. Many of these are my friends, but they've been here a long time, and they're beaten down, and they don't believe we can win. They don't believe it can happen, and the answer they say on every issue is, "No, we can't do it. We can't do it."

102 posted on 03/02/2016 6:51:00 AM PST by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: JustSurrounded

You said...
“So maybe it’s not an issue thing — that flavor of conservative or liberal is not part of the equation? Maybe he’s just not one of ‘them’, he’s of the wrong ‘class’? It boils down to bigotry, then. Maybe they see the biggest threat to themselves and their system would be to allow the public to get the idea that they can elect someone from outside the club — regardless of his position on any issue.”

I agree with what you said and I’ll add to what you said a little bit and tell me what you think.

Jeb was supposed to the nominee to go against Hillary. That’s why he said he would win the nomination without the base(lol). That way, even if he loses, the GOPe still wins. They can keep on doing what they are doing. Well, as we know, that hasn’t worked out that way. If there was no Trump, Cruz would be the nominee and the GOPe would go down the next in line for a candidate to back. When people are about to lose power, or even think they are about to lose power, they do irrational things. That’s what you’re seeing now. They can’t risk the possibility that Trump will upset their apple carts.

However, there’s a risk. If Trump is elected and becomes a disaster, that will entrench and embolden the GOPe.

I will say this, if there’s one person who can fight Hillary on her level, it’s Trump...lol


103 posted on 03/02/2016 6:55:03 AM PST by LMAO ("Begging hands and bleeding hearts will only cry out for more" Anthem by Rush)
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To: LMAO
Okay, that makes sense to my mind ... I think you're spot on. There was something up with Jeb. I think the fix was in. And, if this year had played out like past years, all he would have to do is hang in there and he'd have been the nominee. A Bush? How tin-eared can the GOP get? (I still do worry that shenanigans are being plotted for the convention.)

I've begun seeing our federal government as a machine. The politicians have set it up so they really do not have to decide much of anything. They've invented bureaucracies that do the heavy lifting ... and those continue on regardless of the bureaucrats who come and go. Think BORG.

I think Jeb or Hillary would serve the machine satisfactorily, so, regardless of who wins and whatever letter is on their jerseys, the game continues and their world is good.

And what you say makes sense. If Trump is elected and does poorly (as I suspect most of the ruling class will make it their life's mission to bring about), they can smugly say, “see, you need the establishment to do this job. Never question us again.” Kind of like how conservatism was kicked to the curb after Goldwater.

Presumably all they really want of Cruz is to lose. I'm surprised they haven't yet turned to Kasich. I figured this was why he continues to hang in there. How embarrassing for him if they bring in Mitt rather than turn to one who is already running! On the Dem side, I figured O’Malley would stay around as a sanitized alternative to Bern or Hill — but I was wrong on that one.

104 posted on 03/02/2016 7:25:02 AM PST by JustSurrounded
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To: Lurkinanloomin

Certainly shows that they don’t work for us little people that elect them.


105 posted on 03/02/2016 8:04:09 AM PST by MagnoliaB (You can't always get what you want but if you try sometime you might find, you get what you need.)
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To: cotton1706

Rush claimed to be surprised for the establishment (Lindsay Graham quote) to choose Cruz over Trump because, he claims, Cruz never ever bows his head to the establishment.

Except when it comes to voting, as in TPA, Corker bill, H-1B visas, lobbying for increased immigration, etc.

Of course, Rush has blocked that out of his mind.

Last night, Brit Hume claimed that Trump would have a good night if he achieved 250 delegates.

Today, Rush has moved the marker up to 300. And says that Trump didn’t really sweep things like it was thought.

Rush still being devious.


106 posted on 03/02/2016 9:29:01 AM PST by odawg
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