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Pat Buchanan: A New GOP is Born
World Net Daily ^ | February 29, 2016 | Pat Buchanan

Posted on 02/29/2016 6:17:14 PM PST by VitacoreVision

Pat Buchanan: Regardless of nominee, Donald Trump surge marks 'death rattle' of establishment

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We hear wails that the nomination of Trump would mean the end of the conservative movement. But how so?

If Trump won and conducted a conservative government, it would validate the movement. If Trump won and turned left, it would inspire an insurgency like Ronald Reagan’s in 1976, when the Ford-Rockefeller-Kissinger administration moved too far toward detente.

If Trump ran and lost, the conservative movement would have President Clinton to unite and rally the troops against.

One recalls Barry Goldwater’s historic wipeout in 1964. But, in 1966, Republicans made the greatest gains in a generation, and went on to win the presidency for 20 of the next 24 years.

Undeniably, a Trump presidency would mean an end to the Bush and establishment policies on trade, immigration and intervention.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2016issues; buchanan; bush; donaldtrump; newrepublicanparty; patbuchanan; thetrumpdilusion; trump; trumpdelusion
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To: Bryanw92
"They don’t wait for “perfect”. They merely wait for opportunities."

Like becoming worker bees in the apparatus of Government and becoming bureaucrats that becoming part of the unchecked regulatory machine that moves the progressive movement forward via stealth.

61 posted on 03/01/2016 3:54:29 AM PST by taildragger (Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Incorrect. Trump is not running under the free trade, open borders, interventionist GOP brand. Hence, Mr Buchanan’s point.


62 posted on 03/01/2016 3:54:40 AM PST by Publius22
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin

Incorrect. Trump is not running under the free trade, open borders, interventionist GOP brand. Hence, Mr Buchanan’s point.


63 posted on 03/01/2016 3:54:40 AM PST by Publius22
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To: VitacoreVision

Since Trump has won, and defeated them, what will the ideology-only conservatives (such as Levin, Beck, etc.) talk about and write about through November?


64 posted on 03/01/2016 4:22:59 AM PST by ReaganGeneration2
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To: taildragger

>>Like becoming worker bees in the apparatus of Government and becoming bureaucrats that becoming part of the unchecked regulatory machine that moves the progressive movement forward via stealth.

Exactly. Just as it matters less who votes than who counts the votes. They know that their system works best with a body of law that covers everything, and then all they need to do is to become the people who enforce the laws, rules, and regulations to their advantage.


65 posted on 03/01/2016 4:36:59 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: gaijin

I’m buying a pitchfork today. The peasants will be heard.


66 posted on 03/01/2016 4:39:07 AM PST by jimbo807
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To: Bryanw92; sourcery

>>True. But it’s also true that America is considerably more socialist now than it was 50 years, ago, despite Reagan.

The only thing that shows me is a sucker is born every minute. 40 odd years, a majority with a (R) President AND/or Congress, and not a single-step back toward our lost Republic.

“We’re always waiting for the ‘perfect’ so we can make our big move and save the republic.”

I’m sorry, the LAST time the less-than-perfect was settled upon, we got the following *fine* Compassionate Conservative ideals: NSA, TARP, DHS, broken borders, Religion of Peace, NCLB, etc.


67 posted on 03/01/2016 5:53:37 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: VitacoreVision

I think Trump should pick Cruz to head the Justice Department.


68 posted on 03/01/2016 5:58:49 AM PST by baltimorepoet
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To: AFreeBird
The old one ain’t dead yet. Let’s not bury the chickens just yet. If the GOP is a chicken, it is: Mike the Headless Chicken

69 posted on 03/01/2016 6:02:37 AM PST by baltimorepoet
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To: taildragger
The funny thing of it is, the e-GOP was thwarting the Tea Parties efforts to reform and reinvent the Party from within at every turn.

They'll live to regret that move...

70 posted on 03/01/2016 6:27:02 AM PST by GOPJ (Will Hillary totally disavow ANY group connected to the Muslim Brotherhood, AlQaeda or ISIS?)
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To: i_robot73

>>I’m sorry, the LAST time the less-than-perfect was settled upon, we got the following *fine* Compassionate Conservative ideals: NSA, TARP, DHS, broken borders, Religion of Peace, NCLB, etc.

We also got 9/11 and two wars and we started that presidency with a Deomcratic Party that was out for blood and a pissed-off media. Remind me, who was the “perfect” candidate in that primary? GWB might be remembered differently if certain events had or had not occurred. But, how many people were talking about the UniParty in 2000? We know from hindsight that it existed before then, but very few of of us knew it and when we mentioned it right here, we got flamed for our tinfoil hat theories.

You point backwards to demonstrate why we shouldn’t do something in the future. History matters, but the context of that history matters too. Can you understand how much the world, the nation, and the people have changed in 16 years?!? Just because something worked in the past does not guarantee success in the future, or vice-versa. The Progs work with the conditions that they find HERE AND NOW. We need to learn to accept reality as a part of our plans as well or they will keep moving the ball in their direction.


71 posted on 03/01/2016 6:27:21 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: Bryanw92

Ah, so history/context matters...when subverting or not supporting the Constitution?

I don’t recall anything being ATTEMPTED by the ‘Right’ to reverse from the Socialist path. The majority of what I pointed out happened with a Congress and W.H. populated with the, so called, ‘small govt’ party.

What ‘reality’ do you propose to ‘readily accept’? We’re a Democracy? The Constitution is a ‘living, breathing’ document? What, HERE AND NOW, gets us BACK to a Free Nation and People?


72 posted on 03/01/2016 8:01:26 AM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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To: altura

He will clean her clock. He will wipe her like a rag.


73 posted on 03/01/2016 8:37:56 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: Mariner

We need a “Freedom Movement” that enters on constitutionally limited central government and state sovereignty. Helpful along those lines would be repeal of the 17th Amendment and probably a term-limit amendment. I’m becoming convinced that we should take away as much as possible allowing career politicians. I’m beginning to believe that career politicians are per se corrupt.


74 posted on 03/01/2016 8:43:05 AM PST by Jim W N
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To: gaijin
Let’s get rid of McCain, Miss Lindsay

As I've said before, I can understand how liberal Republicans get elected in "blue states" like Massachusetts, New York, New Jersey, etc. Romneys, Giulianis, Patakis, Christies etc. are the only type of Republican who could get elected in those states. How McCain and his girlfriend Lindsey haven't been eliminated in the primaries of their states (Arizona and South Carolina, which are solidly Republican and conservative) is a mystery to me. Or maybe it isn't so mysterious, because we all know the power of incumbency and having the RNC political machine backing you.

75 posted on 03/01/2016 9:16:08 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: VitacoreVision
Undeniably, a Trump presidency would mean an end to the Bush and establishment policies on trade, immigration and intervention

"Bushism" has defined the Republican brand since 1989. Every nominee from 1988 on has been cut from more or less the same cloth, and Trump's rise is proof that Republican voters want an alternative. This revolt the and political instincts that Trump represents are more permanent, reliable, and trustworthy than Trump himself.

76 posted on 03/01/2016 9:18:55 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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To: altura
He can’t beat Hillary.

Put down the kool-aid and turn off Fox News. Just a week ago they were saying Trump's ceiling was 35% ...now it's 45-49%. I predict in two weeks (March 16) it will be near 60%.

77 posted on 03/01/2016 9:26:14 AM PST by The Citizen Soldier
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To: i_robot73

>>I don’t recall anything being ATTEMPTED by the ‘Right’ to reverse from the Socialist path.

Me neither. The Progressive agenda moved forward even when Reagan was in office. The “Right” has never been in power in our lifetimes. We’ve been led by Globalists, Progressives, and Neocons since the end of WW2. The things that you would call Conservative are not important to a majority of decision-makers (in government and in business) and never have been. But they lead us to believe that they share our values and we believe in the hopes that, this time, it will be true. And we are always left disappointed, while the Progs always seem to inch forward.

Guess what. That what “progressive” means. When they chose that name over a century ago, it was their game plan from Day One. Go read what Senator Robert La Follette said in the first decade of the 20th century.

Understanding our nation is like understanding Christianity. You can choose to think in feelings and then find proof texts to support them. Or you can study systematic theology and know how all the pieces fit together. Most Cruztians are proof texters and that lack of mental discipline extends into their politics as well.


78 posted on 03/01/2016 9:29:09 AM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: The Citizen Soldier
Put down the kool-aid and turn off Fox News. Just a week ago they were saying Trump's ceiling was 35% ...now it's 45-49%. I predict in two weeks (March 16) it will be near 60%.

I have to admit that I was completely convinced that when establishment candidates (Christie, Jeb, Carly, etc) dropped out, their voters would automatically go to another establishment candidate (Rubio). I was surprised to see Trump's numbers go up instead.

But your point regarding Fox News is well-taken, I've been ignoring them for years, since it was clear almost from day one that they're just propagandists for the RNC and the GOP establishment.

79 posted on 03/01/2016 9:39:16 AM PST by ek_hornbeck
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