Posted on 02/26/2016 9:30:49 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Last night at the debate he said jobs at his Palm Beach country club are seasonal, typically running only 60 to 90 days. After the debate he told CNN that they run four or five months. Setting that aside, along with the fact that we’re in a weird place politically when Marco Rubio is on offense about public indignation over foreign labor, is it true that Americans would rather be unemployed than work part-time? Not according to the local temp office that spoke to the Times for its story about Trump’s hiring practices yesterday:
In Palm Beach County, Tom Veenstra, senior director of support services at CareerSource, a job placement service, took issue with Mr. Trump’s contention that he could not staff his clubs with locals. “We have hundreds of qualified applicants for jobs like those,†he said.
After a report by Reuters in July about Mr. Trump’s use of guest workers, executives from Mar-a-Lago met with recruiters from Mr. Veenstra’s agency, promising to request local workers for 50 positions.
But Mar-a-Lago sent over just a single job request, for a banquet server. Mr. Veenstra said CareerSource referred four applicants to the club, and one of them got the job.
Since then, Mr. Veenstra said, “we haven’t received any other job orders.â€
Per the Times, 296 locals either applied or were referred for more than 500 seasonal jobs at Mar-a-Lago. Just 17 were hired. A few who weren’t told the Times they were holding out for permanent jobs with benefits but one claimed she was eager for a position and never heard back. Trump says that’s because many applicants aren’t qualified for the positions. Not qualified to be … waiters and housekeepers? What sort of hole would you need to have in your education to make you unfit to deliver drinks? I thought this guy loves the “poorly educated.” Did he mean Mexico’s poorly educated?
The man to read this morning about seasonal work at Trump’s club is David Seminara, who’s studied H-2B visas for unskilled foreign workers. He went looking for data on Trump’s club. Quote:
In petitioning for workers, employers are supposed to prove that their hiring need is “seasonal” and “temporary”, yet Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club has sought to import guest workers year after year, including right now. (Their most recent petition was filed in July 2015 and the workers are on contract at the resort until May 31, 2016.)
Trump maintained at the debate on Thursday night that the jobs he had filled with guest workers were hard to fill because they were only for 90 or 120 days. But in fact, the duration of the petitions was never just three months. The work period for Mar-a-Lago’s guest workers, according to the petitions, is nearly always October 1 to May 31, which is 8 months. On other occasions, his company petitioned for even longer periods. For example, in 2009, the Trump National Golf Club petitioned for guest workers for the period January 26 through November 20.
This went on during the height of the recession too, when Americans were more desperate for work than they are now. I’ll bet you could have found some Palm Beachers circa 2009 willing to accept a permanent, if seasonal, position that runs for two-thirds of the year, but then that might have warranted paying benefits and that would have made cheap labor more expensive. Voila: H-2B visas to the rescue. Seminara can’t even be sure that Trump’s use of H-2B workers is limited to the numbers that the Times found since many businesses use shell companies or “body shops,” in which a third party applies for a bunch of foreign workers and then distributes them to other businesses that need them.
None of this matters to anyone who’s leaning Trump, right? Right. Just checking.
Ronald Reagan did not either...He did okay.
I agree.
RE: Far too many locals are simply not qualified. in addition, many are not willing to work part time and would rather stay on unemployment until they find a full time job.
Well if true, THAT my friend, is the argument of many of those employers EVERYWHERE ELSE ( California, New York, etc. )
So, given that we DO have such need, why not pass a law TEMPORARILY employing such people from Mexico and other countries the way we did in the past ( e.g. the BRACERO PROGRAM )?
And stop all these rhetoric about “taking jobs away from Americans”
RE: I just check and the number of workers ever hired by Cruz and Rubio combined is 0.
What about the policies they support? Won’t that create jobs for the economy? Surely that counts -— CUTTING REGULATIONS, CUTTING TAXES, etc.
Yep... that has been the democrat line for sometime now, that we need these illegals because they will do jobs that americans won't do. Now it's Orangehead and the trumpsters saying it.
Then please explain why Donnie paid a million dollar fine for hiring illegal Polish workers? Also Using Visa program to hire foreign workers under false pretenses in the US is a crime.
Donnie claimed on National TV last night he couldn't get anyone here to do the work. 100+ Million Americans without a job and Donnie claims he couldn't find less than a 1,000 to do that work?
Tommy Flanagan Believes him...
'You bet, that's it. Now I remember...Yeah that's the ticket.' 
I’ve noticed the same thing. The things Trump has said and done used to be cause for attavks here at FR. Now, they produce shouts of Go Trump!!!! It’s been amazing to see the evolution of people here. If you made this any other year, the things Trunp says would sound like a democrat. I will certainly vote for Trump in the general...but I predict EXTREME buyer’s remorse on the part of his supporters here when he becomes president. There will be a LOT of “told you sos” in his administration. And if anyone honestly thinks he is gonna get a wall built with the way DC works now ..,you’re crazy.
I don’t think that is he point. Where people are now having to constantly say “there’s nothing illegal in what Trunp has done”..,,they USED TO SAY: “what a crock...give Americans the chance”. It’s been an amazing transformation of people’s positions and priorities here. People on FR ISED TO obliterate anyone who said this...now they say there is nothing wrong with it. Amazing.
These idiots still don’t understand the difference between legal and illegal.
It was funny last night and I doubt too many people caught it but I did, when Rubio went after him about the I Million dollar fine for hiring the illegal polish workers Donnie let slip his true feelings.
He reiterated at one point, ‘hey it worked out for everyone...’ I am sure he was alluding to his costs being kept low and the polish workers being paid...However in Donnie’s attempt to justify his ILLEGAL activities he forgot one group of People he claims now he wants to protect.
The American Construction Workers.
Evidently the Billionaire Builder doesn't either... That's why he paid a Million dollar fine. :)
What is the percentage of these workers compared to the total Trump workforce? I bet it is quite small.
That was by a subcontractor and that was years and years ago. By the way how many Americans do Cruz or Rubio employ?
It does not matter about season, international visitirs or anything else, the question is if trumps gardeners are illegals then he is breaking the law just as they are, making his immigration program worth exactly what the hot air is worth coming out of his mouth.
You exhibit your ignorance.
No he didn't...You Cruzbots just can't quit lying about Trump...Trump hires general contractors who in turn hire sub contractors who hire the employees they want...
I would think that would be an issue of discussion had either one of them Claimed to be a Multibillion dollar Businessman that denied hiring ILLEGAL Workers while claiming his goal is to protect and bring back American Jobs.
Given that neither have made that claim I guess that is what happens when you put yourself out there as some kind of pillar of Society that will protect American Workers, while in reality you have committed criminal acts to hire Illegals and have a closet full of skeletons...
Give Trump a break. He can’t even spell at a fourth grade level.
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