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Kasich, Cruz ballot paperwork challenged in Pennsylvania
WPXI.com ^ | February 25, 2016 | uncredited byline

Posted on 02/26/2016 6:47:22 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog

HARRISBURG, Pa. - Court challenges seeking to knock Republican presidential candidates Ted Cruz and John Kasich off the Pennsylvania primary ballot have been scheduled for hearings in March.

The challenge to Kasich was filed by a Marco Rubio activist and will be heard March 9. It questions the signatures collected to get Kasich on the April 26 ballot.

Two Cruz challenges will be heard March 10. One was filed by Carmon Elliott, a Pittsburgh Republican, who says Cruz isn't qualified to run for president because he was born in Canada. The other challenges the signatures collected to put Cruz on the ballot. "I learned in grade school on what is a natural born citizen," Elliott said.

While Cruz was born in Canada, his mother is an American citizen, making him a U.S. citizen, too.

Elliott argues that the criterion isn't enough to become a U.S. president.

(Excerpt) Read more at wpxi.com ...


TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: ballot; birtherism; election; president
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To: AmericanVictory

Cruz and Rubio best Friends LOL


21 posted on 02/26/2016 8:09:38 AM PST by scooby321
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To: driftdiver
-- Probably because the signature requirement is controlled locally and is a requirement to be put on the ballot. Local laws --

The local/state law also says the candidate must be eligible for the office. It is a requirement for being put on the ballot. The issue has both state and federal ramifications. The state has an interest in ballot integrity.

My point is that the courts are arbitrary, that's all. They are willing to inquire as to certain facts (e.g., the federal requirement for AGE), making the reason they use to not inquire on NBC, not hold water.

To your point, the answer comes out different if the courts invoke standing vs. invoking jurisdiction.

Either a voter has standing, or not. If the REASON a person lacks standing is that all voters are similarly situated, that reason holds, no matter WHY an ineligible name appears on the ballot.

That answer can come out different if the REASON given is jurisdiction, then the state court is enforcing a state requirement for access to a state ballot.

I still see weaseling when the state requirement and federal requirement are the same.

Cruz essentially argues that the state has no power to deny state ballot access to a person who is ineligible for reasons expressed in the constitution. This results in a state being obliged to put on the ballot, persons who are underage or who are foreigners or who never resided in the US, etc.

22 posted on 02/26/2016 8:12:12 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Regarding Cruz and Rubio, this is interesting folks. This woman just hit a bulls eye regarding Natural Born Citizens.

https://www.facebook.com/RealTrumpNation/videos/748619391935874/?fref=nf


23 posted on 02/26/2016 8:16:42 AM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I’d ask Trump supporters and my fellow Trump leaners to back off this line of procedure. It’s unseemly at the least, and probably counter-productive.


24 posted on 02/26/2016 8:20:32 AM PST by steve8714 (Evidently Breitbart.com has changed their name to "not responding".)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Having said that, if Cruz wins and this hasn’t been through state courts, Hillary Rodman Clinton will exploit it.


25 posted on 02/26/2016 8:23:32 AM PST by steve8714 (Evidently Breitbart.com has changed their name to "not responding".)
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To: Cboldt

The State cannot determine the NBC requirement.


26 posted on 02/26/2016 8:39:08 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver
-- The State cannot determine the NBC requirement. --

What distinguishes citizenship from the other qualifications? If the question is one of federal qualifications, what gives the state the right to judge the qualification?

Cruz's argument is that federal qualifying factors are off limits to ALL courts, period. Courts lack jurisdiction, and the issue isn't ripe until after the general election.

Your argument was the same, state courts have no business in federal requirements.

I don't think one can make a consistent and logical argument, using the criteria of state v. federal, and justify judging some federal requirements but not others.

27 posted on 02/26/2016 8:48:10 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Cboldt

Because citizenship is national citizen and not state. My guess, I’m not a lawyer.

You’re doing a lot of speculating. May be fun but not my thing. Ive read reviews by lawyers that its a federal issue.


28 posted on 02/26/2016 9:04:59 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: steve8714
if Cruz wins and this hasn't been through state courts, Hillary Rodman Clinton will exploit it.

Yup. My nightmare scenario. Cruz wins and the Dems go judge-shopping for one who will rule that he is not "natural born". If Scalia's chair is still vacant SCOTUS will be in a 4-4 deadlock, meaning no appeal. Hello, Constitutional Crisis.


29 posted on 02/26/2016 9:06:43 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Rubio’s parents got their citizenship papers in 1975.

Rubio was born in 1971.

Is Rubio eligible to be President?????


30 posted on 02/26/2016 9:24:43 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: New Jersey Realist

Rubio has his own problems, IMO. I don’t know when his parents CAME to the USA, but-—

Rubio’s parents got their citizenship in 1975.

Rubio was BORN here in 1971.

IS that a problem for Rubio?

I want some answers.


31 posted on 02/26/2016 9:26:37 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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To: ridesthemiles
Rubio's parents got their citizenship in 1975. Rubio was BORN here in 1971. IS that a problem for Rubio?

No, unless he runs for President.

32 posted on 02/26/2016 9:29:14 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves Month")
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To: ridesthemiles

Given that the 14th Amendment was written strictly to give negroes citizenship, it has been perverted to subvert the Founders wish that citizens born to citizens are natural citizens.


33 posted on 02/26/2016 9:29:49 AM PST by New Jersey Realist (America: home of the free because of the brave)
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To: ridesthemiles
Rubio's parents got their citizenship papers in 1975. Rubio was born in 1971. Is Rubio eligible to be President?????

Depends on who the judge is and their party affiliation.


34 posted on 02/26/2016 9:48:20 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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