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To: MTsumi

“Also, Congress can impose the draft, Congress is the governing body, not a judge acting on behalf of an overzealous agency.”

Congress has passed laws, ie, “The All Writs Act”, which the judge must enforce.

“The other issue is that the FBI is asking for Apple to deliver this software to them so they can use it themselves.”

There are differing reports on this. Apple is claiming this to be the case but the feds insist this isn’t true.

In fact, there is right this instant a report on CNBC that the feds are saying Apple is completely misrepresenting their requests. The feds are saying Apple gets to keep the code in their facility, they can destroy the code after cracking this one phone, and that any code created by Apple would only work on this one phone since it is peculiar to the serial number on that code.


7 posted on 02/25/2016 10:12:10 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: DugwayDuke

Sorry, you are wrong, wrong, wrong. You obviously have either little understanding of technology or you’re abysmally illiterate.

The FBI HAD the password. They (or the gov dept who owned the phone, under FBI direction) changed it. NOW they claim they can’t get into the phone and must have Apple “unlock” it. Sorry Wrong!

If Apple can create a wholly new operating system that doesn’t have the delays or the erasing feature that the phone’s O/S has, AND could install it on that specific phone [which *may* be possible], this would still NOT UNLOCK that phone. It would still be locked because the FBI claims it doesn’t have the password.

So by defeating the delay or erasure on multiple errors feature, the FBI would have to try to brute force cracking the phone, which would take longer than the heat death of the universe to attempt - even if they only had to try 1/2 the possible combinations and doing so didn’t fry the phone’s circuits in the attempt.

So Apple CAN NOT “unlock” this one phone. Because of the encryption, that is basically not physically possible. Plus, if the FBI were given that phone with the security defeats O/S installed on it, they could conceivably copy that code and then apply it to ANY phone they want to crack. Yours, if they want to.

If Apple retained possession of the phone after the installation of the defeated security O/S installation, then Apple would have to attempt to crack the password. Which again, would be physically (cryptologically) impossible.

You should read about and learn the rule of holes. And about when people think you an idiot. Read, learn. This has NOTHING whatever to do with Apple “unlocking” this particular phone and everything to do with the FBI using this case to gain access to virtually any iPhone they wish to inspect or compromise.

Apple is totally correct. They would have to build a new O/S that didn’t have the security delay features and then install it on the specific phone. And this still would not give the FBI an “unlocked” phone- only allow them to try to crack it, which is, again, virtually impossible. But then the FBI would have that digital copy of the compromised O/S to use on any other phone they wanted to.

If you had any tech knowledge beyond your basic inability to read media headlines, you’d be dangerous. Please, stop providing everyone with proof of your idiocy.


9 posted on 02/25/2016 11:00:37 AM PST by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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