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To: Helicondelta

I don’t know what part of “repeal Obamacare” these anti-Trump people don’t get.

And further, their anti-Trump mania seems to be clouding their judgement with regard to the reality that, in America, poor people and homeless people can walk into the ER and get treated, get surgery that costs 10’s of thousands of dollars even, and SOMEONE has to pay for it. It’s always been that way, and traditionally, the cost gets passed on to the consumer and that’s why an aspirin is $50 at the hospital. THAT is socialism too, whether it’s government doing it or a not-so-free part of the free market. At this point, every solution we’ve ever had for that problem has been socialism, and now there’s actual government bureaucracy and freebies of Obamacare on top of everything, so any solution that starts off with “repeal Obamacare” is already a reduction of socialism.

I’m open to suggestions on how to handle this in a way that strengthens the free market, and I’m sure there are solutions that can work once we get rid of the abomination that is Obamacare as a starting point.


21 posted on 02/22/2016 3:03:38 AM PST by 20yearsofinternet (Border: Close it. Illegals: Deport. Muslims: Ban 'em. Economy: Liberate it. PC: Kill it. Trump 2016)
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To: 20yearsofinternet

The market solution to taking care of the poor is lowering the cost of access to health care for the poor.

You lower the cost by getting government mostly out of health care. Endless regulation, endless make work documentation, trial lawyers with its defensive medicine, etc.

Market solutions don’t include “the government’s gonna pay for it”.

Nothing is quite as expensive as “free stuff”.


28 posted on 02/22/2016 3:44:00 AM PST by DB
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To: 20yearsofinternet

No, you are just parroting terms because you are caught up in Trump Mania to the point where you are unable to coherently address your candidate’s position on healthcare, which is really quite progressive. Free emergency care is required by federal law under EMTALA and as Donald Trump says we must have “heart.” Your candidate said healthcare is an entitlement from birth and pointing to previous government intervention into the healthcare industry doesn’t excuse his support for more just as it doesn’t justify more. The best solution for you is to stop pretending Donald Trump is anything but a progressive on healthcare.


53 posted on 02/22/2016 6:20:47 AM PST by A Conservative Thinker (Ted Cruz 2016 - Trump in '04: "I probably identify more as Democrat")
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To: 20yearsofinternet

“THAT is socialism too, whether it’s government doing it or a not...”

No, it’s only socialism when the government does it, by definition.


78 posted on 02/22/2016 1:00:34 PM PST by Boogieman
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To: 20yearsofinternet
It's always been that way, and traditionally, the cost gets passed on to the consumer and that's why an aspirin is $50 at the hospital.

Actually it hasn't always been that way. Most hospitals 100 years back belonged to churches, the for profit medicine is fairly new. Hospitals managed their free care by overcharging the insured patients, that is a documented fact for at least 65 years. Basically it allowed Hospitals to illegally transfer wealth with full knowledge of the government.

86 posted on 02/22/2016 1:58:31 PM PST by itsahoot (1st impression. Trump is a fumble mouthed blowhard that can't speak in complete sentences. VoteTrump)
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