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To: Tulsa Ramjet

If they are not naturalized, they are “natural born”. A good way to look at it is this: if you are a citizen and were never naturalized, you are, by definition, natural born.

That is, the conditions of your birth are what make you a citizen.


190 posted on 02/19/2016 8:00:46 AM PST by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: cuban leaf
A good way to look at it is this: if you are a citizen and were never naturalized, you are, by definition, natural born.

That is not a good way. It is an oversimplification that is vulnerable to a nuanced definition of naturalization. That definition does not allow for the rebutal of the "if a person is a citizen at birth they are not naturalized" argument.

The above simplification does not reflect the realization that the person is a citizen at birth because of naturalization laws that declare him/her so. That is why there is a special term for the group of citizens with a natural allegiance at birth, those born in the US to citizen parents. They are American citizens wholly and can be claimed by no other nation.

210 posted on 02/19/2016 8:14:39 AM PST by JayGalt (Come not between the nazgul and his prey.)
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