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To: TXSearcher

I’m an OIF vet. I’m not insulted by the idea that the war against Islamic terror could have been better served by something other than regime change and nation building in Iraq.

My pride and loyalty lies with my country and comrades, not a strategic decision and certainly not to any politician or political party.

I think GWB had his heart in the right place when it came to the War on terror, and I was proud to serve while he was at the helm. Doesn’t mean his strategy was infallible.

In fact, his religion of peace statements are still a running joke here, and rightly so.


98 posted on 02/18/2016 6:56:50 AM PST by M1911A1 (The more bile you post by idiots like Beck, the more apt I am going to say, GO, TRUMP, GO!!)
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To: M1911A1
I agree with you, and thank you for your service. There is a lot to dislike about Bush's handling of various things (his reaches across the aisle, ignoring his detractors, immigration, religion of peace, etc.) but to be the Commander in Chief of a complete takeover of one of the most militarized countries in the world (as you likely know from the sheer quantity of arms found in that country) in a relatively short time with lighter casualties and equipment loss than one might expect is no small feat.

I had the opportunity to meet a lot of military personnel during that time frame, and their opinion of GWB was far more positive and enthusiastic overall than anyone on FR even cares to acknowledge. If they stand behind them with their asses on the line (as you did) that means something to me. And their respect for him wasn't the kind of crap you see see now with toadies in the military who suck up to Obama because it is good for their career or they fear what might happen if they don't. The military people I spoke to privately had, overall, a genuine respect and appreciation for the man. One can disagree wholeheartedly with much he did (and I do as well) but it disgusts me to see the herd behavior amongst a portion of proclaimed conservatives who will go so far to distance themselves from GWB that they will jump right into the arms of scum like Code Pink. I won't take part in it. As you said, HE WASN'T INFALLIBLE. He was PLENTY fallible.

125 posted on 02/18/2016 8:41:43 AM PST by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: M1911A1
I'm an OIF vet. I'm not insulted by the idea that the war against Islamic terror could have been better served by something other than regime change and nation building in Iraq.

Thank you for your service. My younger family members who served in both Iraq and Afghanistan have expressed similar feelings/thoughts about loyalty, nation building and the "peaceful religion".

That being said, those of us from the Nam era seem to be more "zoned in" to the differences between discussions of policy/"hindsight" examination of war VS propaganda used to "degrade" the participants to obtain an objective....

Mr Trump is participating in the latter type of discussion as was used by people like Genghis Khan Kerry.

Trump can (and should) discuss why he would (or wouldn't) have gone into Afghanistan (or Iraq) to give us an idea of how he would act as President.....but calling Bush (and others) LIARS that sent men out to die for personal reasons (or no reason at all).....is guttersnipe propaganda being used for his OWN political agenda like that used in the past to attack our troops.

As an old dog like me who lived through the Nam years....Trump knows better than to go that route....which tells me a LOT about what kind of man he is

126 posted on 02/18/2016 8:56:17 AM PST by TXSearcher (Trump, like Obama, keeps redrawing that red line in the sand.........)
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