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To: CpnHook

“Obama ran for the Senate in 2004. You’re claiming that a bio produced by a literary agent 13 years earlier constitutes “campaign literature?”

“That’s one mighty long campaign. It pre-dates Obama’s campaign for Senate, and it even pre-dates the campaign for Senate by the person who held that Senatorial seat before Obama.”

LOL, I figured you would attempt to claim the publications were not campaign literature, but that argument won’t work either. Obama and his campaign used his purported autobiographies throughout his political campaigns before and after his 2008 Presidential campaign, and these promotional publications were promoting his autobiographies, his earlier political campaigns, and more right up to 2007, when the last of them were published. Since they promoted the sales of his autobiographies and the autobiographies were indeed a part of his Senate and Presidential campaigns, they are in fact a part of the publications used in the political campaigns.

“You are WAY off the mark here”

First, you denied the quotes, existed. Then you denied they existed as campaign literature. Next, you’ll be denying the autobiographies promoted by the promotional literature with the quotes were being used as campaign literature. Give it up and be honest enough to admit Obama used the quotation saying he was born in Kenya.


104 posted on 02/18/2016 3:16:02 PM PST by WhiskeyX
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To: WhiskeyX
LOL, I figured you would attempt to claim the publications were not campaign literature,

Well, duh, of course. The agency bio and the Senate campaign are separated by 13 years, and there's no evidence I've seen the former was distributed or reproduced as part of the latter.

but that argument won't work either. Obama and his campaign used his purported autobiographies throughout his political campaigns before and after his 2008 Presidential campaign,

And your evidence to support this claim is where? Here's the crux of the matter. "Smokin Joe" contended the image(s) of the senate campaign literature saying "born in Kenya" has been posted here repeatedly. I'm saying that recollection is a false one. So far neither he nor you have sustantiated the assertion. (And it was his assertion; why you're trying to defend it isn't clear.)

Since they promoted the sales of his autobiographies and the autobiographies were indeed a part of his Senate and Presidential campaigns, they are in fact a part of the publications used in the political campaigns.

So this is the best you can do? No copy of actual senate campaign material claiming "born in Kenya?" Nor even a sample of campaign literature referring back to the agency blurb? You just make some vague reference back to some "autobiographies" out there somewhere that you simply assume were used somehow, someway?

This is false memory born of conflating a 1991 agency piece with a 2004 election campaign. That's my point.

First, you denied the quotes, existed.

Neither you nor Joe had quoted anything. There was nothing given for me to deny. I said there was no 2004 senate campaign material claiming "born in Kenya." I wasn't denying the 1991 agency piece.

Then you denied they existed as campaign literature.

Yep. And I still am. And you and Joe are have offered nothing concrete to refute my denial.

Next, you'll be denying the autobiographies promoted by the promotional literature with the quotes were being used as campaign literature.

"Autobiographies?" Plural? Other than "Dreams," what autobiography are you saying existed in 2004?

And "Dreams" itself says nothing about being born in Kenya. (That's a significant omission, is it not, given your assertion that Obama was promoting some "born in Kenya" life narrative?) The book dust jacket makes no reference either. So even if "Dreams" was referenced in the 2004 campaign, you can't claim that's automatically a reference to the agency bio, which was issued separate from the book and went solely to some book publishers.

Give it up and be honest enough to admit Obama used the quotation saying he was born in Kenya.

If he used it, then you ought to be able to demonstrate explicitly where and how he used it. So far, you're just hand waving.

106 posted on 02/19/2016 7:32:06 AM PST by CpnHook
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