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CRUZ CAMPAIGN: DONALD TRUMP ALSO CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH
TedCruz.org ^ | Feb. 15, 2016 | Cruz Campaign

Posted on 02/17/2016 8:47:05 AM PST by Theo

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To: Batman11
It seems to me that Trump started it. Cruz is forced to address Trump's accusations and Trump's inconsistencies. Now, there is no way to put the toothpaste of intramural controversy back into the tube.

The only fix would be for Trump to apologize for his underhanded behavior and drop out of the race--and heartily endorse Cruz, of course. That ain't going to happen.

Trump won't even walk back his VICIOUSLY STUPID ACCUSATIONS AGAINST GEORGE BUSH.

61 posted on 02/17/2016 11:28:33 AM PST by the_doc
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To: the_doc

I don’t care who was stupid enough to start it and who is stupid enough to respond and keep it going. They both need to shut up about each other, act like professionals, stick to the issues and fight against the liberals!


62 posted on 02/17/2016 11:56:43 AM PST by Batman11 ( All Muslims are not terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslim!)
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To: dynoman; Theo; proudpapa
The SC voters' opinions are beside the point of what I was saying. Trump's national unfavorability is still the highest of all the Republicans in the race.

The problem that no one seems to be talking about is that there is a limit as to the number of diehard/stupid Dems that would ever be convinced to vote for any Republican. Perhaps Trump's attacks against the Dem's nominee would even make them more enthusiastic for their candidate. (Remember: most Dems are political crazies.)

Worse still, as I pointed out in my earlier post, Trump is turning off a significant source of Republican voting strength. Evangelicals have long been a vital voting bloc for Republicans. And although I am persuaded that the genuine Christians in that loosely defined group is far less than the total of professing "evangelicals," the genuine Christians have always been important in national elections.

I personally believe that the vast majority of the credible Christians in America find Trump to be disgusting. ALL of my close Christian friends from my church feel this way.

63 posted on 02/17/2016 11:59:26 AM PST by the_doc
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To: the_doc

If Trump’s national unfavorability is so high why is Trump blowing out the polls? Why did he blow out NH and get one delegate less than Cruz in IA?? Why are his rallies 100x bigger than all the other candidates combined??


64 posted on 02/17/2016 12:02:21 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: Batman11
It's too late, friend. Trump has squeezed the toothpaste out of the tube.

Other than that, I heartily agree with you! (I am just laying the blame squarely at Trump's feet--whereas you are not. Please stop your fence-sitting!)

65 posted on 02/17/2016 12:02:46 PM PST by the_doc
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To: the_doc; proudpapa

Ted’s crapped his bed - and now is getting covered with the stick of it. He’s done that of his own volition. He’s committing political suicide.

Someone once told me, “If someone hands you their head on a platter, why not take it?”

That is what Cruz has done. Very stupid to hand someone like Trump your head on a platter. He’s going to use it. Watch him dominate the new cycle this week with all the ammunition Ted gave him. For being so brilliant Ted sure pulls some bonehead moves.

I never dreamed Ted would have burned “principled” to ashes on the altar of winning like he has. Amazing Ted’s book title is “A Time for Truth”. I bought it.

I couldn’t believe Ted forgot Trump was the only one to mention the names of two conservative judges he’d consider appointing at the beginning of the debate. Instead the “brilliant debater” with “a photographic recall of the spoken word” LIED and said “Trump will appoint liberal judges.”

Wow. What a stupid tactical mistake. It shows canned soundbites overruled smart tactical maneuvering - Ted didn’t recognize the battle field changed with Trump’s mentioning the two conservative judges he’d appoint. He ran with the canned soundbite anyway. Very bad mistake, very bad tactical judgment. That was stunning. Ted’s just another status quo puppet politician. I’ll too vote for him as the nominee but it will be a default “cream of the crap vote for me”.


66 posted on 02/17/2016 12:13:20 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman

“RESPONSE TO THE LIES OF SENATOR CRUZ”

I hope he gets lots of traffic to his statements, and I hope folks read carefully. IMO, this is Trump crying “it’s all about meeeeeeee!”

Is he running for President of the United States, or Pouter of the United States. If it’s POuTUS, so far, so good .. lots of examples, with the latest apparently posted on his website (sheesh):

“If he doesn’t take down his false ads and retract his lies, I will [sue] immediately ... Additionally, the RNC should intervene and if they don’t they are in default of their pledge to me”

So right here on one page, in addition to threatening Cruz with a lawsuit to stop him from campaigning using Trump’s own words, he’ll go 3rd party in a scorched earth run unless the RNC gives in to his demands.

I know what we call it when Jesse and Al do it.

I hope he does sue, the more “immediately” the better. It’s high time to get this all hashed out and let the voters see it all.


67 posted on 02/17/2016 12:14:37 PM PST by Heart of Georgia
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To: dynoman

“Donald J. Trump

RESPONSE TO THE LIES OF SENATOR CRUZ:”

There are no lies by Senator Cruz pointed out here only Trump denying his past statements, friends, contributions, etc. Trump calls senator Cruz a liar to cover his own lies, like he refers to the Senator as being unstable to cover his, Trumps, own mental problem.
“Trump saying senator Cruz is unstable? I believe Donald Trump is an extreme narcissists, more extreme than obama. This is another case of Trump attacking Senator Cruz for his own, Trump’s, problems. I believe Donald Trump is an extreme narcissists, worse than obama. The symptoms the Donald exhibits? Excessive use of superlatives instead of factual information, listen to him describe what he will replace obamacare with. Lack of empathy exhibited by mocking the afflicted and childish name calling. Not to mention his vindictiveness and rages. A narcissist will surround himself with two kinds of people those who pump him up and those he can put down. Trump should not be making Supreme Court or any other appointments, taking those 3am phone calls or have his finger any where near the button. And he calls Senator Cruz a liar and unstable.”
-— Me, on a prior thread.-—


68 posted on 02/17/2016 12:16:49 PM PST by duffee (CRUZ 2016)
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To: Theo

Please, Ted! We need you as a back-up. Stop messing up. These claims are false and slanted and sneaky.


69 posted on 02/17/2016 12:23:16 PM PST by Albion Wilde (Who can actually defeat the Democrats in 2016? -- the most important thing about all candidates.)
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To: dynoman
Trump is not blowing out the national polls, as far as I can tell. The latest poll I saw had Rubio and Cruz beating Hillary and Trump barely losing to her. (Rubio was slightly stronger than Cruz. Rubio's recent Univision problem may change that however.)

Things can change quickly, but the national polls will not move as quickly as a given state primary poll will.

70 posted on 02/17/2016 12:45:23 PM PST by the_doc
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To: dynoman
Cruz knew what Trump had said in the debate, but he was pointing out that Trump cannot be trusted. Trump has even said that his sister would make a fine SCOTUS justice.

Trump's sister is a liberal monster who defends PBA.

While you are so busy scoffing at Cruz, pay attention to Trump's horrible record. He is an arch-populist, meaning he is a panderer, meaning he is unscrupulous, meaning he is a liar at his very core.

71 posted on 02/17/2016 1:02:59 PM PST by the_doc
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To: the_doc

“Trump has even said that his sister would make a fine SCOTUS justice.”

Trump knows appointing his sister would be a conflict and said so when a stuck-on-stupid reporter asked him about it at the after debate presser.

Man some of this stuff is lame and dumb.

Ted Cruz lied - “principled” died. Own it.


72 posted on 02/17/2016 1:08:58 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman
You are not paying any attention. I will (charitably? uncharitably?) assume that you are doing this on purpose. The nepotism issue is irrelevant, dynoman.

The problem is that Trump SAID that his RADICAL-LIBERAL sister would make a FINE SCOTUS justice.

Dynoman, Partial Birth Abortion is obviously one of the most monstrous atrocities on the planet--and yet Trump manifestly doesn't think that there is much if anything wrong with it.

Trump slipped up when he praised his sister's performance as a Federal judge. He inadvertently revealed that he doesn't really care about protecting the unborn. His professed conversion to the pro-life position is manifestly phony.

If I am right about this, he is a dangerous guy in myriad ways.

73 posted on 02/17/2016 3:23:43 PM PST by the_doc
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To: the_doc

When asked at the debate who he would consider nominating to the court Trump gave the names of two solid conservaitve judges. He was the only one to actually give names. I don’t see any reason to invent a problem - unless you hate Trump. Yes then you will invent all sorts of problems - like Ted has done.


74 posted on 02/17/2016 3:29:51 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman
Oh, I will stipulate that I despise Trump. But I don't make up bad stuff about him because I despise him. I despise him because of what I have learned about him.

Trump's response to the question was the sort of (prepared?) response that we should expect him to give on national TV during a debate. His earlier endorsement, in a different setting, of a radical-liberal pro-abortion jurist reveals the real Donald Trump, in my opinion.

Why don't you even consider the possibility that Trump is a fraud? After all, he is obviously a world-class narcissist and world-class blowhard. What makes you think Trump is sincere about anything of real importance?

P.S. Marilyn vos Savant is badly overrated.

75 posted on 02/17/2016 4:18:49 PM PST by the_doc
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To: the_doc

Read post 39 here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3398480/posts?page=39#39


76 posted on 02/17/2016 6:36:31 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman
I fully understand the position in the post you linked, because it goes without saying that we need strong human leadership. What Marie and her husband have overlooked, however, is the fact that we are supposed to be "one nation under God."

God has blessed America--a fact that one of our most important patriotic songs confesses as it pleads for the continuance of God's blessing.

Our Constitution was based almost entirely on the Bible itself. The overwhelming majority of our Framers were devout Protestants, many of whom were elders/pastors in their respective churches. (The Constitutional Convention, which included 55 delegates, had only three delegates that were Deists, plus one Jew.) Benjamin Franklin, although a Deist rather than a Christian, was a close friend of Jonathan Edwards--the Massachusetts revivalist who lit off the Great Awakening that made our nation possible. Franklin delighted to tell the crowned heads of Europe that America's republican constitution was based on the Bible itself.

A Ninteenth Century jurist pointed out in a famous court decision in Massachusetts that our Republic was founded as a Christian nation and that a healthy Christian influence in our Body Politic was necessary for our nation's very survival. Many of our Framers, including the most important Founders, had publicly said the same thing.

Even the Deist Thomas Jefferson, a Founder but not a Framer, repeatedly acknowledged our Creator as the source of and justification for our existence as a nation. Much of Jefferson's most famous language in the Declaration of Independence was even taken directly from the Presybterian's Mecklenburg Declaration of May 20, 1775

Now Trump comes along, and today's frightened but otherwise pretty thoughtless folks think Trump is precisely what we need as a kind of savior of our Republic. I submit that this is spiritually stupid, even spiritually insane. Under the circumstances of our nation's birth and survival through Divine providence, we must not now forget or even downplay the fact that our destiny is completely in the hands of the Lord God our Creator. And I flatly submit that our God is extraordinarily offended that our once-Christian society has stooped to promoting or even electing viciously antichristian phonies like Clinton, Gore, Kerry, and Obama. We have been courting disaster as a nation.

More to the point of this post, I say that we are still courting disaster by asking God to give us Trump, another outrageous political and spiritual phony, as POTUS.

(When even today's churchgoers find themselves endorsing and even defending Trump as a Christian, I have to laugh at their Biblical ignorance. Trump is making a mockery of Christianity and thereby making fools out of the churchgoers who are so ardently, fiercely supporting him--and those same churchgoers don't even realize that he is making fools out of them to feed his own ridiculous ego.)

Please don't get me wrong: I do not insist that a POTUS be a Christian. Thomas Jefferson would be just fine, as far as I am concerned. Thomas Jefferson was a man of unimpeachable Constitutional integrity. Trump, on the other hand, does not fit the mold of any of our Framers or Founders. He is the antithesis of our Framers and Founders. They insisted on leaders with integrity, not self-serving narcissistic populists who only rouse the ugly rabble of the Body Politic.

Trump will say anything to get elected. He is an unprincipled, pandering, position-changing populist who is also following Alinsky's tactical rules--precisely because unscrupulous guys such as Trump realize that Alinsky's tactics work wonderfully well when the electorate is dominated by thoughtless, scared fools anyway.

This is ultimately why Rush and Levin have both pointed out that Trump has been acting like a radical progressive Democrat, not a historic Republican. (A lot of Trump supporters are furious with Rush and Mark for saying these things about Trump, but Rush and Mark are correct.)

In the final analysis, I think America may already be beyond hope. Our Creator God is not to be taken so lightly as today's tokenistic churchgoers have been taking Him for quite a few decades. And we must not condone the notion that America's newly awakened fear of ISIS and illegal immigration suggests that we have finally become wise.

The fear of Islam and unregulated influx of immigrants is not even the beginning of wisdom. The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom (Proverbs 9:10 and Psalm 111:10). The truly wise man will notice that our nation is evidently in much bigger trouble than Trump's supporters realize (Romans 11:22).

Many of today's sober Christians will conscientiously stay home on Election Day if Trump is our Republican nominee (just as many did in 2012). We will trust our Lord God to convey real Christians through the socio-political demise of our largely apostate nation, and that supreme reliance upon our Creator in this monumental mess means that we will never give our support to Trump.

I will support a Constitutionally faithful man of integrity and no one else. Contrary to the vicious lies that have been hurled at him, that man is Ted Cruz.

77 posted on 02/18/2016 1:09:34 PM PST by the_doc
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Who is the God blessed candidate? It’s NOT Cruz, not since he’s defaulted to lies misrepresentation and status quo gutter politics. Ted too will apparently say anything to get elected.

Glenn Beck: God had to kill Antonin Scalia to help put Ted Cruz in the White House
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3398407/posts

Literal Holy Crap: Glenn Beck Says Scalia’s Death Part of God’s Plan to Elect Ted Cruz
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3398277/posts


78 posted on 02/18/2016 1:57:20 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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To: dynoman
Scoffing at Glenn Beck doesn't help your case for Trump. In the first place, I have never held Glenn Beck in particularly high esteem. (I think he is too silly on the radio, for example.) Thus, I don't greatly care what you think of Glenn Beck.

More to the point of your post's serious shortcomings: you merely repeat non-specific but decidedly vicious accusations against Cruz and then bring up Glenn Beck's peculiar religious speculations about God's will as (evidently) your way of scoffing at the spiritual dimensions of the present mess our nation is in.

In any case, you are avoiding the very serious points I was making. You are changing the spiritual subject by resorting (again) to ad hominem attacks against Cruz--attacks that I say you cannot really justify(even if you probably think at this point that you could). In my seriously critical opinion, you are using the Alinsky-style tactics that Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin (and even Michael Savage!) have noticed in the Trump campaign machine.

(Of course, if you think 9-11 was Bush's fault in some meaningful way and if you think Bush deliberately lied about WMDs to get us into Iraq, you are way out on FR's zaniest fringe, IMHO.)

Nothing you said really supports your case against Cruz. Re-read your tagline from Marilyn vos Savant if you want to be intelligent. Every charge against Cruz that I have chased down so far has proven to be false, dynoman. (And everyone with a modicum of honest, informed good sense knows that Trump's most serious accusations against President Bush are bogus. This ought to worry you about Trump, dynoman-- quite a lot, in fact!)

Cutting to the chase now: you and I both know that Trump is not what any reasonable person would call a clearly good man. One Trump supporter I know recently confessed to me that Cruz evidently IS a good man but that he intends to vote for Trump precisely because Trump is an over-the-top ___hole.

I'm afraid that the fellow's explanation of his preference is a symptom of fatal spiritual stupidity, of socio-political reprobation.

79 posted on 02/18/2016 7:48:40 PM PST by the_doc
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To: the_doc

I have no idea what you are trying to get at.


80 posted on 02/18/2016 7:52:04 PM PST by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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