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To: Protect the Bill of Rights
My understanding is the Judge is trying to force Apple into developing a program which does not exist. There is a reason it does not exist-because whether you like Apple or not, Tim Cook is taking a stand on an issue worth fighting.

It is my understanding that this is a secondary issue. That it has nothing to do with what the Judge has ordered Apple to do. That it is a hyperventilating effort to try to get around the Judge's order, but does not actually have anything to do with the current case before the Judge.

Yes, I understand the FBI wants this ability. I do not think that the Judge has ordered Apple to give the FBI carte blanche for all IPhones, merely to unlock the contents of this particular IPhone.

I think Apple's claims in this regard are deliberate attempts to obfuscate the real issue here; That Apple probably has a back door into the IPhone the FBI wants unlocked.

That the FBI wants Apple to build in future back doors to all their products is a separate issue, and one in which I don't think the FBI will win.

I think if Apple wants to build unlockable IPhones in the future, they will probably win that fight in court.

But I don't think they will win this current case.

I am a private law abiding citizen. I want to live my life (as boring as it is) as our Founding Fathers intended-away from the intrusive eyes of the government.

I agree. This is definitely a problem. I don't want people collecting data off of me. It's none of their business.

But if I'm a murderous felon, I lose the right to privacy. That is the difference.

133 posted on 02/17/2016 1:48:17 PM PST by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: DiogenesLamp
I do not think that the Judge has ordered Apple to give the FBI carte blanche for all IPhones, merely to unlock the contents of this particular IPhone.

That's the rub. If Apple can find a way to break into this phone... no phone is actually secure.

138 posted on 02/17/2016 1:58:42 PM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
But if I'm a murderous felon, I lose the right to privacy. That is the difference.

If the government gains a master key, we all lose the right to privacy. That is the real difference.

139 posted on 02/17/2016 2:00:05 PM PST by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
My problem is where do we as citizens draw the line?

We have incrementally lost so much of our personal freedoms these past 20 years. The government has stuck its nose in our homes, our lives and our churches. We can be tracked from dawn to dusk with red light cameras, CCTV, license plate readers. The only time we don't need papers to conduct everyday transactions is at the polls.

For the most part we (broad across the country ‘we’) accept it because we feel powerless to stop it. God knows we cannot rely on Congress to protect our interests.

From my point of view, this is a fight worth fighting and the hill worth dying on because right now, this is the best chance we have.

152 posted on 02/17/2016 2:20:34 PM PST by Protect the Bill of Rights
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