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To: BlackElk

where does your opinion appear in the Constitution?

The Constitution and its Bill of Rights aren’t the only documents utilized in the construction of Federal Law. In fact, the framers thereof also considered natural law and common law as reliable and important.

This isn’t BS if you take a minute to think ahead of the Nation’s future. Go back and re-read the thread because you obviously missed a few things.

The way modern times have chipped away at the family unit has a lot to do with why and how abortion issues exist now, and obviously that’s an issue of importance to you.

It is important to settle this issue before the toe in the door allows the entire camel into the tent. When our chief executive has NO allegiance to the people or to the nation, what sort of trickery is forbidden him then? What ground is there to stand on?

The fact that questions exist regarding the eligibility of any candidate should be enough to void that person’s candidacy for public office if he can’t or won’t produce the necessary paperwork for that office. Otherwise, the requirement of any paperwork at all is a total waste of materials and time. It’s much better to err on the side of caution, than to open Pandora’s box.

The man is young enough to make another run for the office if he should be disqualified at this time, or isn’t able to produce what he needs to produce, and needs more time to do so. However, it’s still a grave situation in that he should have had all those T’s crossed and I’s dotted. The fact that he didn’t, leaves the lid open on that box which has proven to cause problems and issues.

AND, the democrats are talking about suing him if he wins, or if Trump doesn’t. He’s sort of in a check/mate situation.

Obama should never have been allowed into office with the questions about his nationality. All records offered for public office should automatically become public..I’m surprised they aren’t! The fact that a person would pay out millions of dollars to hide the truth certainly casts a shadow on that person’s forthrightness and integrity.

The law demands we acquire and have certain documents for certain purposes. I’d like to see you withhold those required documents from say...the social security admin. when you retire and want to make a claim for your benefits. If you don’t produce them, and ssa can’t acquire them, then you forfeit your claim! You aren’t eligible.

If Cruz, or anybody else doesn’t have the required documents to supply for public office, then he/she must be considered ineligible. It’s that simple. Otherwise, by default, he doesn’t qualify.


108 posted on 02/17/2016 1:07:16 AM PST by PrairieLady2
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To: PrairieLady2
Under Birther notions as to NBC, the whole camel (Obozo) has been in the tent for seven years now despite dozens of ill-conceived lawsuits making Birther claims that have been uniformly rejected by the courts.

I have a doctorate in law and practiced for decades before retirement. Lawyers are not called upon to "think ahead of the Nation's future." We take the law as it is and apply it to the facts and, perhaps, obtain results that move the markers ever so slightly. This glacial approach is very much the essence of the common law but common law may be overturned at will by the same courts that made that law common by court decisions in the first place or by our democratically elected legislators. Common law simply fills what otherwise might be gaps in the law. For example, hunters have mortally wounded a deer which nonetheless winds up on a landowner's property as it dies. Wh gets to eat venison? Hunters or landowner? If the legislature does not like the court decision, it can enact a law to the contrary.

We also have a concept in trial law and elsewhere which we call "the burden of proof." That burden is always fully on the shoulders of prosecutors in criminal law who MUST prove guilt "beyond a reasonable doubt" or not at all. In civil matters, the burden of proof on "the preponderance of the evidence" (50.1% vs. 49.9%) is on the plaintiff making a claim. Likewise, neither Ted Cruz nor any other candidate has an affirmative obligation to PROVE eligibility. The burden is on those who challenge his eligibility.

Yes, abortion IS "an issue of importance" to me. Ay other intentional killing of 60 million + and counting of my fellow Americans will draw similar interest from me. Roe vs. Wade is a barbarous violation of the 14th Amendment Equal Protection and Due Process clauses and the Fifth Amendment Due Process clause and also a gross violation of Natural Law. Herod Blackmun himself in his infamous Roe vs. Wade opinion admitted as much as to the 14th Amendmet and then dismissed the 14th Amendment claim by subordinating the constitution's provisions to the Roman law of Paterfamilia, under which it was allowed that the father (not the mother) of the family had an unquestioned right to order the killing his offspring under 21 years of age. Obviously, he reasoned that Paterfamilia is something the Founding Fathers took for granted as American law. What?????

You pay no price for error which, if allowed to govern, would vod Cruz's candidacy. That is not how it works or was intended to work. I have a lot of problems and issues with Obozo and many others as probably do you) but, sadly, my problems and issues do not disqualify anyone. Nor do yours.

You make an unjustified leap of faith in imagining that Cruz has no allegiance to the people or to the nation. I have no allegiance to Obozo or Hillary or Moral Monster Mitt Romney or McConnell or Ryan-o. So what?

If forced, I shall choose God over the USA. So far, I have had both. The USA is another transitory nation. God always was,is, always will be and always remains the same. God, early and often.

This "issue" has long been settled in favor of allowing the inclusion of Cruz, Rubio, Goldwater, TRUMP!!!, Moral Monster Mitt Romney, Obozo and others. Am I out of line to suggest that you think otherwise at least partially because you do not like the settled result? Then our system requires that, if you disagree, you either get courts more in agreement with your beliefs or slog through the purposefully laborious task of amending the constitution to suit your preference.

Whether TRUMP!!! or the Demonrats or the Bavarian Illuminati threaten lawsuits or not should not govern our lives. I won't be bullied by any of them and neither should Ted Cruz allow himself to be bullied by them. We are conservatives: tougher than Manhattan dilletante TRUMP!!!, togher than Comrade Shrillery, tougher than Comrade Bernie and tougher than Adam Weishaupt. we've got 'em where we want 'em if Birtherism is their best shot.

Your last paragraph is simply without support in law.

God bless you and yours!

124 posted on 02/17/2016 9:56:54 AM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline: Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society/Rack 'em Danno!)
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