Ted Cruz Is In The US Senate Illegally (and not eligible for the presidency)

http://northamericanlawcenter.org ^ | February 16, 2016 | JB Williams

[patlin]

You do realize that you are quoting ‘immigration & naturalization’ laws now don’t you?

[xzins]

Yes. It’s from the state department and it’s about paperwork. It shows that Ted Cruz is a US citizen.

The only thing that will demonstrate Ted Cruz is not a US citizen is the discovery of his mother having renounced her citizenship prior to his birth.

[patlin]

Right now I am enjoying reading and studying further St. George Tucker's commentaries on Blackstone now that I have them in print. It is quite intriguing and also enlightening to the fact that supposed constitutional lawyers, including Levin & Cruz, like to rely on Blackstone, however, the 2 founding fathers who actually wrote works regarding the Constitution and American Law at the time of the revolution, and the time of the adoption of the US Constitution, Tucker rips apart those lawyers who presume to use Blackstone & English feudal common law as having any influence on American law, especially that of citizenship & citizens as sovereigns as was adopted in Virginia in 1779 under the governorship of Thomas Jefferson.

Be it enacted by the General Assembly, that all white persons born within the territory of this commonwealth and all who have resided therein two years next before the passing of this act, and all who shall hereafter migrate into the same; and shall before any court of record give satisfactory proof by their own oath or affirmation, that they intend to reside therein, and moreover shall give assurance of fidelity to the commonwealth; and all infants wheresoever born, whose father, if living, or otherwise, whose mother was, a citizen at the time of their birth, or who migrate hither, their father, if living, or otherwise their mother becoming a citizen, or who migrate hither without father or mother, shall be deemed citizens of this commonwealth, until they relinquish that character in manner as herein after expressed: And all others not being citizens of any the United States of America, shall be deemed aliens.

So we see, even in 1779, nationality of the wife was the nationality of the husband and thus the nationality of children born to said union of husband and wife held the same nationality of their father. It is called "unity in allegiance" as it is for the family, so it is for the nation under the laws of nature and nature's God which this nation was founded upon ... We the People ... to our Posterity.

[patlin]

It doesn’t matter whether he is a US citizen, it matters whether he is a ‘natural born’ citizen, the two are not the same. One derives citizenship by law and the other by nature. Cruz derived his citizenship by law, not by nature. It doesn’t matter that his mother was a citizen, it matters that it took an act of Congress under the authority given to them in A1, S8 of the US Constitution, 150 yrs after the passing of the US Constitution, for his mother to have the ability to apply to have her child receive US citizenship.

[xzins]

I read an interesting comment from Jefferson who called himself a native of Pennsylvania but a resident of Virginia for many years. I hadn’t known that.

In the piece you just posted, ‘resident’ status required an intentional appearance before a judge and not just living in a location.

[xzins]

My point has to do with this thread. This thread claims that he isn’t even a US citizen because no one has ever seen his CRBA.

[ROCKLOBSTER]

why did Cruz support a wall along the US/Mexico when he is an illegal alien himself??

Because he's not a Mexican. He did, however, oppose any wall along the Canadian border.

[patlin]

OK, gotcha. I have a lot of issues with the majority of what JB writes because frankly, he has not done the proper study & research. He is simply out to make a name for arrogant arse. Yes, I have had personal communication with the guy and has a temper to match his puffed up ego.

[patlin]

Yes, back in the day, the courts were the ones entrusted with the responsibility of overseeing all immigration and naturalization, to which they then sent reports to DC. Later, as the federal government established agencies in the several states, the responsibility was lifted from the courts.

[Revolutionary]

The U.S. is specifically a blood citizen country and not a place (soil) country on purpose. The later was the English King’s (and other rulers) law. By custom in those days it was the blood of the father. But custom does not necessarily define law. The modern custom (and statute) is the blood of either father or mother citizens. Natural born is not a place but a blood line. That said, they were also concerned with divided loyalties. That is what drives the two citizen parent concept. But because they were concerned with that, it does not necessarily follow as a constitutional requirement.

As a side note: being born on our soil doesn’t mean squat. It is your blood line. Therefore babies of illegal aliens are not citizens. Or for that matter legal aliens.

[Theo]

When did Ted Cruz become “naturalized”? When was his “naturalization ceremony”?

[patlin]

The only thing that will demonstrate Ted Cruz is not a US citizen is the discovery of his mother having renounced her citizenship prior to his birth

Yes, it would be curious to see whatever papers the Cruz's had to sign in order to gain the ‘legal permanent residency’ status they had when Ted was born. Did those papers contain an oath of renunciation since they were applying for permanent, not temporary residency status. I am of the inclination to believe it there was as they received citizenship in 1973. People, even those who claim to be of the body of Christ have gone to great lengths to hide their past so to prosper their future and Cruz's dad is a biblical snake oil salesman of the sort that Paul warned us about. He is a prosperity gospel preacher who preaches that it is all about the money we can make off the use of the Name of Christ.

[Revolutionary]

My bad. The custom was codified. For this purpose, I believe the codification applies as an extension of the Constitution because it has nothing to do with naturalization. Most laws have regulations that further define them as to practical application. Cruz’s case is built on a thread, but I think a strong enough thread to hold him. Blood is all that matters, not place; and after 1940 mother’s blood counted. (And probably should have counted from the beginning.)

In Obama’s case, his mother did not meet the criteria at the time to confer citizenship. It doesn’t matter on what soil he was born. It is blood thing.

[xzins]

Cruz senior definitely received Canadian citizenship.

There is no evidence I’ve found that his mother applied for Canadian citizenship or received it.

One can imagine that she thought of it, since after all, her own husband had become a Canadian citizen. But, if she actually ever took steps, I’ve not found evidence and I’ve found no one else who has.

At one level, the lack of a CRBA or birth passport would be evidence of a negligent family, OR it could be evidence they had decided to both be Canadian and raise little Ted as a Canadian.

But that is pure conjecture.

[Outlaw76]

Where’s the “not this $h1t again” meme when you need it...

[RginTN]

He did, however, oppose any wall along the Canadian border.

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got links for that?

[patlin]

There is no evidence I've found that his mother applied for Canadian citizenship or received it

This is where one must apply the common sense of the founding generation and the common law of nationality of a family being recognized as "one nationality" under the law at the time in which the Constitution was ratified. There were only 13 colonies and even a quick overview of the state constitutions of 1776-1777 conclude that it was the male/head of the households that determined the nationality of the household. Only upon the death of the husband did the wife take over his character. And we needn't go into those born out of wedlock as that does not pertain to the make-up of the Cruz family at the time of Ted's birth in Canada where his parents had become legal permanent residents according to the Canadian laws prior to Ted's birth.

James Wilson, a signer of both the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution, was a member of the Committee of Detail who drafted the actual Constitution, in which there were 5 members and who also was selected to serve as a Justice on the 1st Supreme Court under Chief Justice John Jay, Wilson stated in 1791,

[T]hat important and respectable, though small and sometimes neglected establishment, which is denominated a family ... [The family is] the principle of the community; it is that seminary, on which the commonwealth, for its manners as well as its numbers, must ultimately depend. As its establishment is the source, so its happiness is the end, of every institution of government, which is wise and good

[T]he most important consequence of marriage is, that the husband and the wife become in law only one person ... Upon this principle of union, almost all the other legal consequences of marriage depend. This principle, sublime and refined, deserves to be viewed and examined on every side.

To become ‘one’ in law is to become of the same nationality. This has been the common law going back to Adam & Eve. Only in post WWI times did the notion of a woman being of a different nationality that her husband even come into being and only so at the authority of the enumerated power given to Congress under A1,S8 of the US Constitution. The rise of feminism has slowly eaten away the foundation of the family as ‘one’ and in doing so, to this day, it continues to erode our national sovereignty.

[BlackElk]

For the three millionth time, Ted's mother was a natural born citizen and therefore, so is he! Birthermania rolls on and is rejected by each and every court which has its time wasted with this nonsense. Probably the only way to make the nuisance Birther claims go away is for any federal court which has its time utterly wasted by these fantasists to levy truly massive Rule 11 fines against each demented litigant who dares to raise this tired old time-wasting Bushwah.

Some people who have so abused the courts have been ordered to file no actions OF ANY SORT without prior court approval by the offended judge. I am no fan of Rule 11 but this is as good a situation for its application as exists.

If the numbskulls who, for WHATEVER MOTIVE, continue obsessing over this nonsense would put one tenth as much effort into overturning Roe vs. Wade or the pervert "marriage" decision, the USA would be a lot better off.

Notice that our leftist enemies do not spend their lives picking silly substanceless fights among themselves over such mindless trivia but instead concentrate on beating the crap out of us who are their opponents. Birthers simply have no observable political competence and they never will.

[BlackElk]

Where does ANY OF THAT fantasy appear IN THE TEXT OF THE CONSTITUTION???? Just because you REALLY, REALLY, REALLY WANT it to be true or because the Manhattan Garbagemouth does, that will not make it true. Click together the heels of your ruby red shoes Dorothy. You can get back to Kansas. You really can!

[Yosemitest]

I'm so sick old these idiots that can;t read the LAW and the CONSTITUTION .
They just keep repeating the Trump LIE.

It would be nice if those DUPED Trumpeters would WAKE UP !

They should be MORE CONCERNED ABOUT EXPLAINING WHY Trump's Companies ARE Using ILLEGALS !
Look at these links:

Donald Trump tells immigrant advocates "You've convinced me"
...Trump told the trio "You've convinced me."
The meeting comes several weeks after Trump - one of the nation's most prominent conservative voices - delivered a key note address on immigration reform in Iowa
and warned that that the Senate's current immigration bill "could be a death wish" for Republicans, who "need to 'do the right thing' ."



Trump: U.S. should accept some Syrian refugees
Donald Trump thinks the United States should accept some refugees from Syria due to the "unbelievable humanitarian problem." ...
Trump ... said Tuesday evening that though the migrants could pose a security risk -- floating the idea that there may be individuals with ties to Islamic militants --
he supported allowing them into America. ...



Donald J. Trump - Verified account @realDonaldTrump
Congress must protect our borders first.
Amnesty should be done only if the border is secure and illegal immigration has stopped.
11:08 AM - 29 Aug 2013
1,055 RETWEETS 1,064 LIKES



Message to the GOP: Trump supports amnesty
... On the Kelly File Thursday, Trump's son Eric expressed frustration that the media overlooks this:
The point isn't just deporting them, it's deporting them and letting them back in legally.
He's been so clear about that and I know the liberal media wants to misconstrue it,
but its deporting them and letting them back legally.
Eric Trump is right.
His father has been crystal clear that he wants all the illegals to return and live in America.
Listen closely to what Trump is actually proposing.
In an interview with CNN's Dana Bash earlier this year, Trump explained his plan this way:
I would get people out and then have an expedited way of getting them back into the country so they can be legal ...
A lot of these people are helping us ... and sometimes it's jobs a citizen of the United States doesn't want to do.
I want to move 'em out, and we're going to move 'em back in and let them be legal.



Donald Trump's companies sought visas to import at least 1,100 workers
... Trump owns companies that have sought to import at least 1,100 foreign workers on temporary visas since 2000,
according to U.S. Department of Labor data reviewed by Reuters.
Most of the applications were approved, the data show.
Nine companies majority-owned by Trump have sought to bring in foreign waitresses, cooks, vineyard workers and other laborers on temporary work-visa programs administered by the Labor Department.
The candidate's foreign talent hunt included applications for an assistant golf-course superintendent, an assistant hotel manager and a banquet manager.
Two of his companies, Trump Model Management and Trump Management Group LLC, have sought visas for nearly 250 foreign fashion models, the records show.
Trump's presidential campaign and a lawyer for the businessman declined to comment.
The Mar-a-Lago Club could not be reached for comment.