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To: silverleaf

It’s a stretch to say that Bush is responsible for Iraq’s failure because he should’ve anticipated Obama pulling out. If every Republican has to limit themselves to doing things militarily they think the Democrats will support then you basically have a Democrat strategy in place all the time.

Besides, even the most cynical people never thought Obama would be stupid enough to pull out completely. Up until pretty close before he pulled out, most people thought they would make an agreement to stay. Obama at least went through the motions of negotiating a status of forces agreement for a while. The American public also would’ve supported a protective force left behind, just as you’re not seeing protests in the streets now over forces staying longer in Afghanistan. Only the most far lefty or isolationist wack job thinks we need to have our troops 100% out of these key regions.


110 posted on 02/15/2016 5:31:34 AM PST by JediJones (RUSH LIMBAUGH on TED CRUZ: "This is the closest in our lifetimes we have ever been to Ronald Reagan")
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To: JediJones
When did Bush ever empower our military to win militarily?

Never

Because we do not have what it would take
The will to kill men women and children over ideology
The million men it would take to seize occupy and hold their territory
The independence to say “ no” to the Saudis and “ bend over” to the Iranians

No bush’ s entire strategy was based on the flawed assumption that the Iraqis shared our “ values” and would greet our troops with flowers when he removed Saddam .... And that disenfranchising Saddam's inner circle of Baathists would cleanse the power apparatus

Instead they started building IED’s and forming a sunni insurgency that has morphed, with major obama strategy bungles adding fuel to the fire, into ISIS

Bush as a man either willfully or ignorantly embraced Islam as something that could be reformed by western intervention. He led our nation into war against an enemy he could not or would not name.

Jeb is cut from the same globalist rop- hugging cloth but without the personal leadership qualities and or intellect of his father and brother

As with the debate on immigration thanks be to Trump for being politically incorrect enough to attack an establishment dynasty and for bringing this out here and now

Aside from obama ( who we can thank the ever silent ever gracious mr bush for bringing down on us )

Is 2003 calling and does it want its policies back?

114 posted on 02/15/2016 6:00:59 AM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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