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To: Yaelle
Here they are; I'm sorry for my mistake.

On the left is the Admiral John Poindexter who defended the arms and drugs sales to fund the contras. On the right is the Houston businessman John Poindexter who owns the ranch where Justice Scalia passed.

After multiple posts attacking this man, a veritable Jihad out of nowhere, you realize the mistake but still leave a smear on the table.

Lt. Colonel North, Admiral Poindexter and Generals Secord and Singlaub were four patriots who went out of their way to get Reagan's foreign policy objectives implemented, principally keeping the Contras funded during the times that they were thwarted by the Communist US Congress ( overstepping its Constitutional role ) and upholding the Monroe doctrine.

Nowhere did any of these four admit to or defend anyone running drugs, that is Communist and left-wing American propaganda aimed at harming the Reagan administration. Nor would it make any logical sense. First of all it would be the simple way to fund the Contras, much easier than the hodgepodge of brokering obsolete plane spare parts and 3rd party donations that they had to do. Secondly, if you think any of those four men would risk something like that, which could easily touch the President, you are nuts.

Drug running was definitely a means of funding for the enemy of the Contras - the Sandinista regime, including Humberto, the brother of Daniel Ortega. This was in the news years before "Iran/Contra", the circa 1984 WaPo and NYT stories are available on the web. Drug running also was likely a source of revenue for some of the Contras themselves, as they are for everybody outside the USA who want money from Americans who spend freely on such things. The mistake is labeling that Sandinistas or Contras equates to drug running, when it is opportunistic individual people doing what they would always do regardless of the existence of either group.

It is most likely true that Langley operatives deal with drug dealers, in the same way cops do all the time. But once again, equating the entire agency with drugs or prostitutes or murderers is a terrible smear. It smacks of simpleton headlines in the leftwing media. But the most evil smear of all is dragging those four guys, incredibly accomplished patriots, into this whole thing when they most likely went to great lengths to avoid tying the old man to something that could damage the administration. This is conduct unbecoming a FReeper.

The communists were very good at gaslighting, they pretty much invented it. They used their friends in our media and especially the idjits on our college campuses to seed the public discourse with propaganda. This is how bogus stories about KAL-007 as a spy mission saw the light of day, diverting attention from the cold-blooded shootdown. And if you're old enough you might remember how they tried to plant seeds of doubt about the Apollo landings on the moon, a twofer that hides their technological incompetence and takes a shot at Nixon at the same time.

159 posted on 02/14/2016 10:42:10 PM PST by Democratic-Republican
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To: Democratic-Republican

I never intended to smear good men. I’ve been reading about the drug running operation under CIA auspices with Barry Seal, Clinton, the Bushes all playing their parts. The things I am reading do not sound partisan per se; they seem instead to point to greed and power on all sides, bipartisan evil, if you will.

Since I have zero first hand knowledge, it could be that everything I read is wrong. But like with many covered scandals, there is so much smoke that the situation deserves to be explained throughly to the American people. There is no reason for the cocaine running done through Mena and other places to remain hidden - it’s not national security. We deserve to know. Why don’t we know? So I feel there is some there, there.

Here’s a more modern scandal completely avoided by the media that I know more about. Barack Obama has shown NO legal document to prove he is elegible to be President, nay, to prove he was even born an American. We know that IF he was born outside the border, his mother was too young to confer citizenship on him. He has shown two forged documents, as online forms, to the press. He has never used a legal Social Security number. His Selective Service form is the only one to use a two digit year (probably forged). It looks like he was not ever an American legitimately. His first passport was conferred upon him bj the US Senate. Using Occam’s razor, it looks like there is something wrong.

I feel the same way about all the info out there about the drug running overseen in some way by the CIA. There is something there. I might be wrong, but something needs explaining.


162 posted on 02/14/2016 11:20:34 PM PST by Yaelle
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