Ted Cruz, Homeschooling, S.306, Dishonesty and Pig-Ignorance

Red State ^ | February 12, 2016 | streiff

[alstewartfan]

Anyone who believes such bilge deserves tyranny.

[GodGunsGuts]

If you would like to be added to the
TED CRUZ 2016 PING LIST drop me a FReepmail.

[txnativegop]

The left is scared of Cruz and so stories like these will continue.

[1rudeboy]

I almost wish you hadn’t posted this here. You’re giving our #ouchebags/trolls ideas. I expect to see this argument made on FR, soon.

[DrewsDad]

Is Home Schooling in Danger of Federal Oversight?

• Is S. 306 good for home schoolers?
  Yes. S. 306 is a very good thing for home schoolers because it allows home schoolers who so desire to save money with the Coverdell Education Savings Account to do so. Legislation like this allows families school choices that may not otherwise be affordable, including home schooling. Anyone who does not want to participate in this program is free to not do so.
• Does Title 1 of S. 306 apply to home schoolers?
  No. Title 1 of S. 306 applies exclusively to public school students and students at accredited private schools. Home schools are not accredited private schools and would thus not be included under this section.
• Does Section 201(a) of Title 2 change the federal definition of home schools?
  No, it does not. Coverdell Savings Accounts have previously been available only to private school students. This section states that “For purposes of this section” the term private school includes home schools.What that means is that in Title 2 of this bill (dealing exclusively with Coverdell Education Savings Accounts), the term private school will include home schools, the effect of which is to make home schoolers eligible for the Coverdell account. However, this definition is exclusive to this section. It does not have any effect on Title 1 of this bill or upon any other part of federal or state law.
• Will S. 306 lead to more regulation of home schools?
  No, it will not. Under the bill, the parents are allowed to use their own funds in their own savings account to pay for their own expenses. The argument that the federal government will come back and try to regulate the use of that account for home schoolers after this bill is passed is not a risk of this legislation, but of our system of government in general.Our system of government allows for changes in regulations that can impact families already participating in a program. However, this fear is not a legitimate argument for depriving someone of his or her rights or freedom to participate in a savings account because future regulation could always happen with any bill. Furthermore, future regulation would only impose restrictions on families choosing to use the account.States that define home schools as private schools are already eligible to use these accounts, and no federal regulations due to Coverdell accounts have been imposed upon home school families. If they ever did, the parent could simply stop using the account and therefore avoid any newly written and imposed restrictions.
• Why are some people concerned about this bill?
  Concerns about S. 306 have typically focused on two areas:

[SoFloFreeper]

If Ted Cruz supported FEDERAL regulation of home schools, I am certain that I would have heard about the fact.

Since I haven’t (and I would have heard, believe me) been informed about the notion, I am certain Ted Cruz is not in that camp.

[dp0622]

alot will, as soon as they see the title.

Cruz is the anti Christ, dontch know /s

[Amity]

I don’t even understand the anti-Cruz argument here. If homeschoolers are worried about Federal interference, all they have to do is not set up a Coverdell. I’m not a big fan of the HSLDA (their definition of homeschooling is too narrow for me), but if they think this bill is good, I think it unlikely it steps on homeschooling rights.

[unlearner]

I saw the same thing when I briefly lived in California. The homeschoolers there were generally against school vouchers. They aligned with the far left on this issue. It was strange. They were convinced that school vouchers would result in government regulation of private and Christian education.

Homeschoolers that are this naive probably do not deserve the freedom to home school their children. But, thank God, we often do not get what we deserve.

[Dr. Sivana]

The HSLDA is authoritative on issues like this, and they give the Lee Bill its blessing.

[HarleyLady27]

http://americanvision.org/12995/cruz-bill-will-bring-homeschoolers-under-federal-regulation/

[SoConPubbie]

Since I haven’t (and I would have heard, believe me) been informed about the notion, I am certain Ted Cruz is not in that camp.

Some of your fellow Trump supporters are pushing the very idea.

[TBP]

The Trump people are scared of Cruz and so stories like these will continue.

[cloudmountain]

Libs HATE home schooling.
All the more reason...:o)

[txnativegop]

that goes without saying, but you are correct.

[cloudmountain]

The Trump people are scared of Cruz and so stories like these will continue.

Well, before too long Trump WILL place his "trump" card. Yes, I'm a bridge player. THINK of what his PR people could do with his name:
Trump's no lump. He's the Ace of Trump.
At gas stations: This pump is for Trump
At gym: PUMP for TRUMP!
A new dance: the Trump Bump.

Don't "cross" Cruz; he'll NAIL ya to it.
Grumpy Cruz: Cross Cruz.
I'd cross the street for Cruz.
His son is Chris Cross.

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And so on.

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Heeheehee. That was fun.

[Cincinatus' Wife]

“...From this an assorted collection of poltroons and imbeciles have constructed the argument that this bill creates a “federal definition of homeschooling” and will subject homeschooling to federal regulation. That anyone would believe a bill written by Ted Cruz and Mike Lee would actually do that tells you all you need to know about the sheer number of idiots there are on the internet. Take this #ouchebaggery, for instance:

http://americanvision.org/12995/cruz-bill-will-bring-homeschoolers-under-federal-regulation/

[jennychase]

[patlin]

This article misses the mark completely! The fact that the program is a federal program, by ones act of participating in that program, one has brought themselves under the authority of the program, that authority being the federal government.

So, NO! This is NOT a good program for those who homeschool their children. We had set up one for our granddaughter who is homeschooled and later closed it after discovering the well hidden dirty little secret to the 529 plans, it is a contract with the federal government that allows the feds to determine how those dollars can be spent.