[fireman15]

The authors of the constitution must be rolling over in their graves if they are aware of the contortions you and Ted Cruz are making with the document they so carefully wrote.

In 1801 Thomas Jefferson was forced to go to war with four North African Muslim states known collectively as the “Barbary States” to protect our merchant ships. Anyone “lucky” enough to survive these attacks were taken prisoner and used as slaves.

Is it necessary for me to describe to you how women who were on board were treated by the pirates? Do you really think that Thomas Jefferson or any of the authors of the constitution would view the bastard offspring of these unfortunate women as Natural Born United States Citizens? And using your logic wouldn’t the children of these bastard offspring be Natural Born Citizens regardless of the location of their birth also be Natural Born United States Citizens? If not then tell me why using your logic we do not have thousands upon thousands of Natural Born US Citizens who are decedents from these Muslim bastard children?

Your point of view is foolish and does not make any sense at all from a legal stand point. That is why Obama went to all the trouble he did to come up with official documentation that established that he was born in the state of Hawaii.

I know you will either ignore a direct confrontation or try to overwhelm is with more cut and pasted buffoonery, I would prefer to hear a rational argument in your own words.

[fireman15]

Sorry for the typos and I would point out that the skullduggery that Obama had to use was both risky and puts him in possible legal jeopardy once he is out of office. He would not have done this if he did not feel the location of his birth was important.

[deport]

cut and pasted buffoonery

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Just scroll on thru as most will do. After a while it is
just repetitive space filler.

[Yosemitest]

" Do you really think that Thomas Jefferson
or any of the authors of the constitution
would view the bastard offspring of these unfortunate women as Natural Born United States Citizens?"

"Bastard offspring" by definition means the "unfortunate" mother was NOT MARRIED. That statement is IRRELEVANT !

When Ted Cruz was born, his parents were "IN WEDLOCK".

Now for your next IRRELEVANT statement:

"And using your logic wouldn't the children of these zbastard offspring be Natural Born Citizens
regardless of the location of their birth
also be Natural Born United States Citizens?
If not then tell me why
using your logic we do not have thousands upon thousands of Natural Born US Citizens who are decedents from these Muslim bastard children?"

AGAIN, that "STRAW MAN" IS IRRELEVANT, when it comes to TED CRUZ being a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN of the United States ON THE DAY HE WAS BORN !

You should do better research when it comes to Thomas Jefferson.
Read Thomas Jefferson's own BILL on there "Natural Born Citizen" requirements for the CommonWealth of Virginia:

Thomas Jefferson, A Bill Declaring Who Shall Be Deemed Citizens Of This Commonwealth

May 1779 Virginia Papers 2:476–78

Be it enacted by the General Assembly,

that all white persons born within the territory of this commonwealth
and all who have resided therein two years next before the passing of this act,
and all who shall hereafter migrate into[Volume 4, Page 488] the same;
and shall before any court of record give satisfactory proof by their own oath or affirmation,
that they intend to reside therein,
and moreover shall give assurance of fidelity to the commonwealth; and all infants WHERESOEVER BORN,
whose father, if living,
or otherwise, whose mother was, a citizen at the time of their birth,
or who migrate hither,
their father, if living,
or otherwise their mother becoming a citizen,
or who migrate hither without father or mother, shall be deemed CITIZENS of this commonwealth,
until they relinquish that character in manner as herein after expressed:
And all others NOT BEING CITIZENS of any the United States of America, shall be deemed aliens.


The clerk of the court shall enter such oath of record,
and give the person taking the same a certificate thereof,
for which he shall receive the fee of one dollar.
And in order to preserve to the citizens of this commonwealth, that natural right,
which all men have of relinquishing the country, in which birth, or other accident may have thrown them,
and, seeking subsistance and happiness wheresoever they may be able, or may hope to find them:
And to declare unequivocably what circumstances shall be deemed evidence of an intention in any citizen to exercise that right,
it is enacted and declared,
that whensoever any citizen of this commonwealth, shall
by word of mouth in the presence of the court of the county, wherein he resides,
or of the General Court,
or by deed in writing, under his hand and seal, executed in the presence of three witnesses,
and by them proved in either of the said courts,
openly declare to the same court,
that he RELINQUISHES the character of a citizen,
and shall DEPART the commonwealth;
or whensoever he shall WITHOUT such declaration DEPART the commonwealth AND ENTYER INTO THE SERVICE OIF ANY OTHER STATE,
not in enmity with this, or any other of the United States of America,
or do any act whereby he shall become a subject or citizen of such state,
such person shall be considered as having exercised his natural right of EXPATRIATING himself,
and shall be deemed NO CITIZEN of this commonwealth from the time of his departure.

SO there, you have PROOF

that Thomas Jefferson, or any of the authors of the constitution,
would view TED CRUZ as a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN off the United States, ON THE DAY HE WAS BORN !