Trump supporters file 'birther' lawsuit against Cruz in federal court

The Hill ^ | 02/12/2016 | Bradford Richardson

[InterceptPoint]

One thing is becoming more evident with each passing day. Ted Cruz is a natural born jackass.

For sure. Just yesterday I heard that he called Trump a liar. Can you imagine?

Oops. That was a Trump quote about Cruz. Sorry about that.

[Cboldt]

Just making notes -- this suit was filed in Alabama. First such suit vs. Cruz in that state. I don't know if Obama was ever sued in Alabama, or any of the courts in the 11th Circuit (Alabama, Georgia, Florida).

Suit comes out of a law office, not some pro se filing.

Plaintiff says that a birth abroad in military service is not a naturalized birth. The 5th Circuit (at least) says otherwise. Not pertinent for Cruz, probably tossed in the misleading statement to get some sort of "sympathy" from the public and/or the judge, that an adverse ruling against Cruz doesn't affect citizenship status of children born to military servicemen/women abroad.

Haven't got a case number or a link to the complaint yet. US news outlets are pathetic wastes when it comes to making facts available.

[Thumper1960]

It doesn't matter.

Trumpites will do the bidding of their master, spoken or unspoken.

[Parley Baer]

“Cruzers are not going to like this ... but it should settle the issue once and for all either way.”

I totally agree. Take the issue away once and for all. This way Ted would be free to run as Trumps VP.

[V K Lee]

Perhaps this group will have ‘standing’ A note to our Founding Fathers, the wise men who wrote our sacred documents. Why sirs, did you not foresee this and give US insight on exactly how to keep the pigs in the fence? There needs to be something written in black and white otherwise years from now the radicals will attempt to do this all over again. They keep running those plays till they get it right -Their win; our loss

[Durbin]

“Good! Let’s get it over.”

It won’t matter. we’ll continue to see the birther opinions on the internet for years to come.

[Yosemitest]

Read the CONSTITUTION, LIBERAL !
IT'S THE LAW !

FACT: Cruz’s father’s Cuban nationality at the time of Cruz’s birth, is irrelevant, according to the law at that time,
just so long as he was a LEGAL Immigrant at the time of Ted Cruz's birth,
AND both of Ted Cruz's parents were legally married to each other.

What are the rules for people born between December 23, 1952 and November 13, 1986?

The 14th Amendment IS a part of the U.S. Constitution and states in SECTION 5.
The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.
So, under that power to legislate, Congress legislated and the President signed into law:
When ONE parent was a US citizen and the other a foreign national,
the US citizen parent must have resided in the US for a total of 10 years prior to the birth of the child,
with five of the years after the age of 14.

... While there were initially rules regarding what the child must do to retain citizenship,
amendments since 1952 HAVE ELIMINATED THESE REQUIREMENTS.

When Ted Cruz was born, his parents were "IN WEDLOCK".

They married, moved to Calgary, Alberta, and in late 1970 had their first and only child, Rafael Edward Cruz.
Cruz was born on December 22, 1970 in Calgary, Alberta, Canada where his parents, Eleanor Elizabeth Darragh Wilson and Rafael Bienvenido Cruz.

Cruz's mother was born and raised in Wilmington, Delaware, in a family of three quarters Irish and one quarter Italian descent.
Eleanor Darragh, mother of Ted Cruz, was raised in Delaware, graduated from a Catholic High School (1952) in the U.S., as well as Rice University (1956),
so clearly she meets the residency requirements.

Source

In 1957, Rafael Bienvenido Cruz (Ted Cruz's father) decided to get out of Cuba by applying to the University of Texas.
Upon being admitted, he adds, he got a four-year student visa at the U.S. Consulate in Havana.

"Since he liked to eat seven days a week, he worked seven days a week, and he paid his way through the University of Texas," Ted Cruz says of his father, "and then ended up getting a job and eventually going on to start a small business and to work towards the American dream."

Only he did that in Canada, where Ted was born.
His father went there after having earlier obtained political asylum in the U.S. when his student visa ran out.
He then got a green card, he says, and married Ted's mother, an American citizen.
The two of them moved to Canada to work in the oil industry.

"I worked in Canada for eight years," Rafael Cruz says. "And while I was in Canada, I became a Canadian citizen."

The elder Cruz says he renounced his Canadian citizenship when he finally became a U.S. citizen in 2005 —
48 years after leaving Cuba.
Why did he take so long to do it?
"I don't know. I guess laziness, or — I don't know," he says.

So there is the law for the time Ted Cruz was born,
AND HOW Ted Cruz's PARENTS fulfilled ALL those requirements of the law that time, for Ted Cruz to be a "Natural Born Citizen".
Ted Cruz did NOT NEED a Court and a Judge to "Nationalize" him.

One more thing, listen to a REAL CONSTITUTIONAL LAWYER:

MARK LEVIN explains that Ted Cruz IS a natural born citizen ( 7:30 )
Published on Sep 17, 2013

[longfellow]

After the Kenyan in office this subject is null aND void..

[Cboldt]

-- Why would a voter who wants to cast a vote for a legal candidate not have standing? --

The courts reason that your tentative vote can't be viewed as having any value, that the person you object to might lose anyway, in which case, you have no damages at all.

The better line of attack in these suits is ballot integrity. It is a crime in all states to file falsely. There is a good argument that Cruz has broken the law by certifying that he is eligible.

[fireman15]

Gosh, your fingers could get messed up from all that CTRL C and CTRL V usage.

[HarleyLady27]

They should have NEVER done this with obuma, it set the wrong example, but people were soooo excited to have a Black President, they let it slide...

We have a lot of Black, well educated, Born On American Soil, to two born on American soil parents that could very well have been President...but they chose not to use reason and now we are back here again...

Just because some people made an error in bad judgment on obuma doesn't mean we have to do it again...

[hoosiermama]

Standing is based on damage. Since he is not in office yet they can’t claim damage for actions yet to happen. Thus far the only people with standing are fellow candidates. Dr Carson has been damaged the most with the dirty trick et al

[zerosix]

Yawn!

Can't wait to see what opening up the Trump Pandora's Box will uncover, that we don't yet know

[Kenny]

Unless Trump himself, or one of the other candidates joins in... it will be found that they have “no standing” and be dismissed regardless of the merits.

Ben Carson might join.

[Cboldt]

I'm not even sure an opposing candidate has standing. A court can say that the candidate in opposition can't win anyway.

But as I said before, courts are funny things. There is ALWAYS a way to get to the desired result. The "law in between" is just a tool, it leads to no definite conclusion. In the hands of a judge, the law is infinitely malleable.

[Cletus.D.Yokel]

The courts will find on the following:

(a) The complainants have no standing with out the full consent of the Republican Party in the motion. The party provides ^bona fides^ of the candidates eligibility.

(b) After that, the question of standing is directed to [first] the electoral college and [second] the house of representatives.

Under the current understanding of the courts, no individual voter has standing in the question of eligibility.

[HarleyLady27]

I think your on to something here, he is a candidate, and he could bring action on this subject....

[Maelstrom]

Trump has his own issues if he really has British citizenship himself.

[Cboldt]

The Illinois election commision’s “Further discussion on this issue is unnecessary.” is pretty funny, in as much as it didn’t have a discusison in the first place. The commision said ZERO words of rebuttal to the opposition argument.

[EternalVigilance]

Interesting.