Posted on 02/12/2016 9:54:57 AM PST by b4its2late
Edited on 02/12/2016 1:35:20 PM PST by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
Now that Donald Trump has won the New Hampshire primary and proved himself as a legitimate threat to win the Republican nomination, it's time to take a serious look at his policy proposals. When it comes to health care, Trump hasn't had much to say of substance, but the policy pronouncements we have gotten from him are a mix of socialism and incoherence.
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-— Asked who would pay for it, Trump said, “The government’s gonna pay for it.” -—
There’s an original idea.
Rambling, incoherent socialist.
Go Trump!
Thanks for your reply.
>>>”Trump is wise to NOT tell how his system will work..
So this is your view of how it would work; not what Trump says?
And I don’t want to buy a pig in a poke. Particularly when the “solutions” involve bigger government, more regulations and taxes.
Yep!! Just like the Cruz supporters do!!!
Ronald Reagan made it law that emergency rooms had to accept all without insurance. Trump’s system would be cheaper.
Don’t shoot the messenger. I didn’t write it. I just posted it.
“So we should support Trump’s socialist policies because we already have socialist policies.”
No, we should elect “conservatives” to Congress and elect a “conservative” to the presidency like George Bush, both of which gave us socialist Medicare Part D.
I agree. Ambulances for colds, emergency rooms for sniffles. It's crazy.
County health clinics should be triage locations for all but emergencies for the indigent.
Bret Baier at THE FIRST GOP DEBATE asked why Donald Trump supported single-payer in 2000. Here’s his answer.
“As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland.”
“Before it’s too late” what kind of judges would Donald Trump pick?
Trump’s plan is to allow freemarket economies of scale and competition to lower healthcare costs. Free insurance costs from artificial state lines. Whoever is left over would receive a care that is cheaper for the system than what we have now. It’s not the best ideological solution for these remaining poor uninsured but its cheaper than doing nothing because the emergency room costs are so high and that would be where they would go.
Why did you omit the rest of what he then said?
go to post #27 and to post #40
“As far as single payer, it works in Canada. It works incredibly well in Scotland. It could have worked in a different age, which is the age you’re talking about here.â€
There you are, but that does not change anything.
He says he thinks it could have worked in the US in a different age.
His program for what will work now is 2-tiered. (1) Those who can care for themselves, and (2) those who cannot.
What age is he talking about?
And age in which people weren’t looking for an angle and receiving government help was not a positive thing.
Guess Trump never heard of Medicaid and Medicare, just like Obama didn’t.
We were already paying for them via hidden add-ons to our insurance costs
You want that again?
So do you want Trump to start yet another bureaucracy?
So, what is the difference between that and Obamacare?
I assume you are saying you want hospitals and doctors padding your bill with expenses not yours as their way of covering those who don’t have their own coverage. You’re okay with a system where they subtract those costs from their gross income as expenses for doing business and that you get a deduction for over - charges when your personal charges pass a certain threshold. The cost of the indigent care is that plus crowded emergency rooms, abused ambulances, overcharges, and phony prescription and treatment costs.
And you say that’s better than bringing it out in the open than another bureaucracy. But there’s also a hidden bureaucracy of clerks, accountants, doctors, and monitors in that above system to make the balance sheets pan out. They are all part of the cost factored in to your bill.
You’re paying it anyway. But it doesn’t count if we don’t see it.
I want that ended and when a non-partisan shows up I want them to bill the government instead of me. Then my costs will be clean, insurance costs will clean, and medical charges will be clean.
And competition will drive costs down cleanly.
Gosh, has Trump convinced you that only Trump”care” can fix all that?
I got my first medical training in a county hospital. In the first year I was there (1974), the big news was that they had to hire a billing firm (to bill Medicaid), because the hospital (since Walter Reed was an intern) had never sent a bill and they didn’t know how to do it.
The care was OK. We lived there, we were motivated, and if what was wrong with you was in a book, we did a good job. If you had a problem that wasn’t in a book, you were kinda screwed (unless we could figure it out), but hey, what do you want for free?
This system was being abolished as soon as I got to know it. America, and Americans, rebelled against “two classes” of medical care. To move the 20% “county population” into university and private hospitals (who definitely DID know how to send bills) would cost a few dimes, but, hey, it’s a rich country, right?
The subject of how to pay for medical and nursing services (with other people’s money) would take hundreds of posts.
But in THIS post, I just wanted to point out that, within living memory, we “took care of everybody”, we paid for it, we did an adequate job, and we could do it again - if liberals were not in charge to demand “equality”.
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