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To: xzins
We're going to find out where we're at in the next month. If SC goes Trump and the SEC primaries go Trump it will be hillary that wins in Nov. If Cruz pulls it out and wins we have a real shot at winning in Nov.

I know a lot of Trump supporters see it differently, but a lot of conservatives will just sit it out in Nov. if Trump is the nominee. I am in that group.

15 posted on 02/12/2016 7:21:12 AM PST by wmfights (a stranger in a hostile and foreign land that used to be my home)
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To: wmfights

Which of these do you oppose that would cause you to walk?

1. He supports a temporary ban on muslim immigration

2. He supports fixing broken trade deals.

3. He supports building a wall and restoring our sovereignty over immigration.

4. He supports justices like Scalia and Thomas

5. He supports 2nd amendment

6. He supports RILOM pro-life

7. He supports ending crony capitalism

8. He has no secret billionaires to whom he owes allegiance.

9. He wants to rebuild our military on the advice of our fighting generals.

10. He supports eminent domain for renewing economic activity.

11. He supports ending the Iran nuke deal.

12. He supports taking ISIS oil, their financial resources, and bombing their economy to hell and back.


21 posted on 02/12/2016 7:28:42 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: wmfights

You choose Hillary or Sanders over Trump????

I guess that tells us a lot about Cruz supporters...

I support Trump. If Cruz is the nominee, I vote for Cruz and encourage everyone I can to vote for Cruz.


36 posted on 02/12/2016 7:41:19 AM PST by Gadsden1st
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To: wmfights; xzins
I know a lot of Trump supporters see it differently, but a lot of conservatives will just sit it out in Nov. if Trump is the nominee. I am in that group.

I'm going to respond to that statement with 2 quotes/paraphrases from a couple of rather famous gentlemen that I am sure that we all admire greatly:

1. "The Perfect is the enemy of the Good." General George S. Patton, Jr.

2. "In politics, if you get 70% of what you were looking for, take it and run away." Ronald Reagan

The point that these 2 very wise and experienced men were making is that in the real world, NO ONE gets everything that they want. You have to take the world as it is, not as you'd like it to be. Note that the Dems understand this - despite a lot of them backing Hillary in the 2008 primaries, and having one or more problems with Obama, virtually all of them turned out to vote for him. Why? Because they realized that they'd probably get the vast majority of the policies that they wanted Hillary to implement. They saw the Republicans as the enemy, politically speaking, not a fellow Dem. We Republicans/Conservatives, OTOH, seem to have a childish habit of taking our ball and going home if we don't get exactly what we want - to the great long-term benefit of the Dems. THAT VERY THING is what gave us Obama.

I like Cruz, a lot. I donated to his campaign. I'm not so thrilled with some of the things he's done in the last few weeks on the campaign trail, but I understand that it is a fight with only one winner. Right now I back Trump because I think that he's the most conservative person who actually can win in November - but I will happily vote for Cruz, or Rubio (whom I don't trust on immigration as far as I can throw an elephant), Bush (whom I cannot stand) or Carson (whom I believe to be utterly unprepared to be President, though he has good instincts) - because ANY of them will reverse a lot of what Obama has done. ANY of them is far better than either the Lying Hag or the Socialist. I am voting for the best interests of this country as I see them - and though Trump is very, very far from being my ideal candidate, he IS for a strong national defense, lower taxes, less regulations, he's in favor of shutting down the uncontrolled immigration of people from the 3rd world into this country (who not only don't do us any good, but are a tremendous drain on this nation's resources and put many Americans out of work), he's vocally pro-gun (which is a positive switch from his past positions, showing that he can learn) and he will be a FAR better negotiator on trade issues (which are KILLING the middle class). ALL of those issues show him to be conservative, and the rest don't really matter that much. Stay home and allow Hillary or Bernie to be President, and I personally guarantee that you (and I, and everyone else on FR) will get NONE of what we want.

It is one thing to be vocally for 1 particular candidate, and vocally against others, in the primaries. But win or lose, everyone of a particular general political mindset MUST unify...or the other side wins. We've seen what 8 years of Obama's economic, military, foreign policy, naming of judges and domestic policy has done to this country - and because you don't like Trump and some of his policies, you'd allow 4 or 8 more years of the same? I honestly believe that you need to rethink that position.

Families have internal spats - but when someone from outside the family butts in, or threatens a family member, then everyone unites DESPITE their prior differences. That is what Republicans and conservatives need to do. Right now, the outsiders have set fire to our family's house - and they are doing their level best to turn off the water and steal the garden hose that we need to put that fire out. Don't let them win over a few rather petty differences that our family has amongst ourselves.

51 posted on 02/12/2016 7:59:22 AM PST by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." A. E. van Vogt)
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To: wmfights

I think Trump has a much better shot at winning. He will get independents and people will come out for him not in play with the other candidates. So we will find out if I am right. But I like Cruz so it pains to have to keep harping at him. However, I sense he turns off a lot of people Trump can get. That’s all. But Cruz was once my first choice. He fell to second, but if he was nominated what other choice do I have but vote for him.


70 posted on 02/12/2016 8:40:56 AM PST by Mozilla
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To: wmfights

So, you would willing hand this country over to a treasonous criminal psychopath Marxist, rather than take your chances with a man who is not a “perfect” conservative?

From the view of saving this nation from total collapse, your statement is illogical - and definitely not “conservative.”

Ignorance has its limits, but stupidity knows no bounds.


101 posted on 02/12/2016 9:57:41 AM PST by WTFOVR (I find myself exclaiming that expression quite often these days!)
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To: wmfights

The outsitters will not be conservatives but sour grapes ner do wells


130 posted on 02/12/2016 1:39:31 PM PST by Thibodeaux (leading from behind is following)
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To: wmfights

God help us from posts like this one.


137 posted on 02/12/2016 7:20:51 PM PST by nikos1121 ('Love isn't something you find. Love is something that finds you.' Loretta Young)
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