In last night's live phone feed that streamed for several hours on YouTube (while tens of thousands listened in), they said that they would give themselves up this morning.
Cliven Bundy flew to Oregon to be with Franklin Graham for the event...but he was stopped when he landed in Portrland and arrested. supposedly he has been taken to the same facility where Ammon is being held.
Apparently they are charging Cliven with the same thing as his sons, felony conspiracy to impede officers of the United States from discharging their official duties, in connection with the 2014 standoff in Nevada.
They have allowed him to go about his life without any charges since then...well over a year...but apparently have decided that this charge is something they can make stick against him and his sons.
Anyone involved in the Nevada incident better be on their guard now as I expect they will now round up others too.
What impact the arrest of Cliven is going to have I cannot say.
IMHO, the Federal managers involved in this keep trying to anty up the situation when there is no real need to.
They could just as easily have arrested cliven on his way hom (if they were bound and determined to do so) afyter the negotiated surrender, as to do it before the actual surrender.
The issues these people have protested are real and they should be protested. You may agree or not with their methods...but they have very valid reasons for doing what they are doing...and in essence, they are the same things we protested against at Klamath Falls in 2001.
The abject trampling of citizen rights by an out of control Federal government.
Our founders understood it. It is PRECISELY what they did against the over-burdensome and tyrannical English government of their day. They ended up being inspired in their writing of the Declaration of Independence and then the US Constitution to outline what the federal government's role is...and they are pretty explicit about it.
Now we live in a day when those constraints are being trampled and a new generation of people recognize the same truths...
"...whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it... Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such "
As the trampling of our basic rights continue...sooner or later, either we follow their example, or we are going to lose what has been purchased for us.
I hope for the best but there are so few ranchers left, so few people still living on the land. they really have driven most of them off.
I think the only change will come when there is an investigation of the big land bureaucracies, BLM and EPA. An exposure of their corruption and oppression.
there just seems to be too few left to resist.
“Anyone involved in the Nevada incident better be on their guard now as I expect they will now round up others too.”
Yep. Seems like the hammer is falling.
Yet somehow the FBI hasn’t yet found anything to charge Hillary with...
...not just the emails, but a few little crimes such as:
- stealing furiture from the white house, ordering her minions to lock and clear out Vince Foster’s office (impeding a federal officer from discharging his federal duties), insider trading with cattle futures, etc, etc
We've already lost it. And no one really, truly cares. There are no real patriots alive today. We are all "too busy" - going to work, paying the mortgage, making the car payment, Trying to keep up with rising insurance premiums, buying the latest tech and big screen TV's, following the latest sports news and drinking beer while watching the big game on our big screen TV's - to act would put ALL of that in immediate jeopardy. In all likeliness, we would lose all the "stuff" we've managed to amass over the years, and there is no one willing to do that.
Unfortunately, we have forgotten the words of Samuel Adams:
"If you love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen."
What’s the statute of limitations on that “impeding a fed”?
And if that’s all they could find, digging deep in their search, then that (plus shooting at LaVoy’s car and killing him in an ambush) also puts a bad light on the feds...
thanks for the ping Jeff..
as the FBI takes NO ACTION yet on the Beast