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HOROWITZ: TRUMP REVEALS HIS LIBERAL HEART [Still pushing socialism, government dependence]
Conservative Review ^ | 1-31-2016 | Daniel Horowitz

Posted on 02/01/2016 12:32:54 PM PST by dangus

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To: MNJohnnie

What Trump actually said,

“If somebody has no money and they’re lying in the middle of the street and they’re dying, I’m going to take care of that person,” Trump said.

God bless him if he actually decides to start helping people besides political props. But read the article; he said a lot more than that.


21 posted on 02/01/2016 1:00:08 PM PST by dangus
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To: huldah1776

Nothing is going to be done about abortion no matter who wins. Vote for someone who actually says stopping muslim immigration and building a wall on the southern border is a good idea.


22 posted on 02/01/2016 1:00:24 PM PST by Ultima
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To: dangus
"If somebody has no money and they're lying in the middle of the street and they're dying, I'm going to take care of that person," Trump said.

I'm for that.

Just on the cost of cleanup alone.

23 posted on 02/01/2016 1:01:53 PM PST by Lazamataz (I'm an Islamophobe??? Well, good. When it comes to Islam, there's plenty to Phobe about.)
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To: MNJohnnie

What Trump actually said,

“If somebody has no money and they’re lying in the middle of the street and they’re dying, I’m going to take care of that person,” Trump said.

FACT: In all 50 states, a hospital or ambulance company can lose its license for failing to treat such a person, regardless of ability to pay.

FACT: As the article states, “Had Trump spent more time studying the government he seeks to run instead of pandering for the endorsements of Bob Dole and his less charismatic mini-me, Terry Branstad, The Donald would understand that we already spend hundreds of billions on Medicaid, S-Chip, and an array of state programs for those who would “die on the sidewalks” because they have no money. Medicaid alone will cost us $350 billion this year. The “dying on the sidewalk” Alinsky argument is a non-sequitur. The real question is what happens with the rest of us. Either we are all forced into single-payer, which has been Trump’s long-standing position.


24 posted on 02/01/2016 1:02:31 PM PST by dangus
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To: dangus

I think this is something the “Conservative” media machine might want to keep in mind. Candidates come and go, your reputation follows you around for the rest of our career in media.

Really want to get a reputation as habitual liars? Take a look at how that tactic has worked for your cohorts in the Leftist media.


25 posted on 02/01/2016 1:05:48 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: dangus
As usual, a lot of attacks on the messenger, so they can avoid the message.

Trump has promised that "everyone" will be covered. You cannot do that without either an individual mandate, or single payer, so some mixture of the two. It's simply not possible as a matter of logic. Without a mandate, some people will choose not to be insured because they won't want to pay for it. And if they're not willing to pay for it, then the government must. Otherwise, "everyone" will not have coverage.

This obvious contradiction keeps getting ignored by Trump supporters who insist that he's going to eliminate Obamacare but not have single payer. You can certainly do both, but you can't do that and cover "everyone", as Trump said he is going to do.

If he wants to backtrack on "everyone" being covered, that's fine. But until he does that, it would be irresponsible not to ignore what he's said.

26 posted on 02/01/2016 1:06:02 PM PST by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: dangus

If Trump is already veering towards the middle now, just think of what’s going to happen if he gets the nomination.


27 posted on 02/01/2016 1:07:42 PM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: Ultima

You don’t get it.


28 posted on 02/01/2016 1:08:54 PM PST by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: dangus
Try actually addressing the actual quote. That is intellectual honesty. Creating your own spin, contrary to what was said, in the belief it will help your candidate, is lying. This is where the media "Conservatives" totally fail. They rant and rave about everything non stop but fail to ever offer any solutions to anything. The result is they make "Conservatives" look like a bunch of Marie Anntoite elitists totally oblivious to the real problems average people face.

Trump That doesn't mean single payer. And I mean, maybe he's got no heart. And if this means I lose an election, that's fine, because, frankly, we have to take care of the people in our country. We can't let them die on the sidewalks of New York or the sidewalks of Iowa or anywhere else.

29 posted on 02/01/2016 1:10:42 PM PST by MNJohnnie ( Tyranny, like Hell, is not easily conquered)
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To: stocksthatgoup

Conservative Review is a Levin site that is all in for CRUZ!


30 posted on 02/01/2016 1:12:19 PM PST by virginia9000
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To: MNJohnnie

It doesn’t mean single-payer, but it does mean mandatory. And the failure of mandatory, which we are witnessing, will make single-payer inevitable, even if Trump claims he no longer desires that outcome.


31 posted on 02/01/2016 1:14:51 PM PST by dangus
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To: DoodleDawg
If Trump is already veering towards the middle now, just think of what’s going to happen if he gets the nomination.

Well, he'll make America great again by cutting deals with the likes of Reid, Pelosi, Schumer, et al. Oh, wait: isn't that what the GOPe is doing now?

32 posted on 02/01/2016 1:17:21 PM PST by windsorknot
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To: virginia9000

“Conservative Review is a Levin site that is all in for CRUZ!”

Doesn’t the son of Levin’s fiancee work on another candidate’s campaign?


33 posted on 02/01/2016 1:32:22 PM PST by patq
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To: dangus

Please show me the conservative answer to the specific situations that I’ve outlined.

The pre-existing condition issue gets everyone at some point.

We all get sick. People are surviving cancer and chronic disease at much higher rates because modern medicine is improving. The ‘widow maker’ heart attack that would’ve been the end of a 45 year old isn’t ending his life and that man is living to be 85. T1 Diabetes used to be a death sentence, but now it’s an expensive, high-maintenance disease that doesn’t completely cripple a person and they *can* work, but they can never afford their disease without help.

There *is* no easy conservative answer to this problem. Conservationism hasn’t caught up with the reality of modern medicine.

The closest thing that I’ve seen that could work is the Australia model. They’ve got a crappy, inconvenient public system that people pay a reasonable price to stay out of.


34 posted on 02/01/2016 1:36:40 PM PST by Marie (TRUMP TRUTH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gw8c2Cq-vpg)
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To: dangus

Just another Establishment Republican politician.


35 posted on 02/01/2016 1:40:47 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: stocksthatgoup

Yes, citing the man’s public record is definitely idiotic. We’re just supposed to clap our hands twice and believe.


36 posted on 02/01/2016 1:41:47 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: dangus

NONE and this article is CRAP; filled with lies, distortions, and is extremely biased.


37 posted on 02/01/2016 1:42:13 PM PST by nopardons
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To: TBP

Yes, citing the man’s public record is definitely idiotic. We’re just supposed to clap our hands twice and believe.


Public record? Absolutely. There is only one candidate here with stood with Barack Obama & Goldman Sachs in the United States Senate. That would be Ted Cruz.


38 posted on 02/01/2016 1:43:24 PM PST by lodi90 (TRUMP Force 1 lifting off)
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To: Marie

>> Please show me the conservative answer to the specific situations that I’ve outlined. The pre-existing condition issue gets everyone at some point. <<

HIPAA was passed unanimously in 1996 by a Republican-controlled Senate, and expanded unanimously in 2004 by a Republican-controlled Senate with a Republican president. It was an expansion of Reagan’s COBRA. It means that if you were previously covered by health care that you cannot be turned down if you enroll in another health care program within several months.


39 posted on 02/01/2016 1:43:43 PM PST by dangus
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“Public record? Absolutely. There is only one candidate here with stood with Barack Obama & Goldman Sachs in the United States Senate. That would be Ted Cruz.”

Nice try.

If you mean the banking bailout, Cruz opposed it, and Trump supported it. In fact, Trump supported the bailout, the trillion-dollar stimulus spending, and his supplemental 2009 budget.

The only tie Cruz has to Goldman Sachs is that he put a second mortgage on his house to loan money to his campaign.


40 posted on 02/01/2016 1:46:36 PM PST by dangus
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