[[Some children born abroad of US citizen parent or parents are NOT US citizens.]]
Yes because certain conditions were not met to meet the requirement of NBC (IE they never abode In the us throughout their life- forfeiting their citizenship
[[All of the courts find that a child born abroad is first (or presumed) an alien]]
That’s not true- I provided links to cases to you before that show they are NBC as distinct from needing to acquire citizenship through an act of naturalization- We spoke of this awhile back in another thread- The cases pointed out that naturalization for NBC is different than naturalization for those who must become citizen through an act- people born of one us citizen do not need this according ot those cases- those born to parent’s who aren’t citizens need to undergo a naturalization process/act
I know your argument is that anytime the word ‘naturalization’ is used, it means an act by statute, and that any time a statute is involved, it invalidates a person from being an NBC- but recent cases seem to refute this
The phrase "naturalization for NBC" is nonsense.
I'm not trying to persuade or educate you, you are beyond that. When we started this recent conversation, it was over Ted's claim to Cuban citizenship, which at the moment of his birth, stood on the same sort of legal ground as his claim to US citizenship.