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To: kiryandil

“some of that training is bad tactics”

bad tactics, bad strategy, bad training, not to be excused or condoned on any level.

In the final analysis, the guy with the red dot on a guy’s body, also bears some responsibility. The human gut knows, after all??

“Normal” response? for a “normal” person with a “normal” conscience? Seems there is some examination of conscience to be done, even if not criminal culpability. Above all, the over militarization and hair-trigger training of LE HAS to be addressed.

LeVoy did not need to die; those in his vehicle did not need to be pummeled with rounds. LE training is in great need of reform, if this situation is an example of “legitimate” response to “legitimate” training.

As others have posited, these rules of engagement in Oregon on our soil, exceed what are allowed by our fighters on foreign soil. I have to agree with that assessment. We we taught and trained on the Geneva Convention, on how to save cultural treasures, to avoid collateral damage to civilians, even at the expense of our own and our troops’ lives, heaven help us to exercise judgment to protect our own troops within the rules of engagement, but that is what we had to do, we had to do both! Who is prepared to let go this pummeling of a civilian vehicle on a civilian highway in these Unites States, go excused? Excuse me for asking! In a foreign theater, it could well be deigned a War Crime! Yet, none even here, much less in society at large, are protesting the pummeling of a civilian vehicle in a filmed assault, with not only presumed guilty but also known innocent hence collateral innocents involved? You freepers decry the hands of our warriors tied in foreign wars into which they are sent for better or for worse, yet you would ALLOW this travesty to be understood as a legitimate exercise of domestic police power?? PLEASE EXPLAIN as inquiring minds are wondering.


487 posted on 01/30/2016 11:47:57 AM PST by AMDG&BVMH
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To: AMDG&BVMH

Agree.

I mentioned early here the truck occupants were treated as if they were wanted, known international mass murdering terrorist with very violent backgrounds. And just days prior, many of the same protesters met with, joked and shook hands with the FBI guys after voluntarily driving over to meet with the FBI.


488 posted on 01/30/2016 12:19:34 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: AMDG&BVMH; LucyT

See links in #485 by lucyt

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3390085/posts?page=485#485


500 posted on 01/30/2016 6:13:00 PM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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