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To: kiryandil

No...you are completely wrong about this.

He was no bafoon. He was doing exactly what they have been trained to do, and he was willing to risk injury or death to do so.

Please do not knee jerk with such statements.

There was one officer already in position on the right side. When Lavoy drove to the left, this guy came out of his vehicle to position himself on that side and force Lavoy into the snow.

Lavoy had the choice to either run down the officer, or veer further to the left and get his right tires off the pavement into the snow...which is what happened.

But the fact that he was willing to try and go around, and get that close to the officers, would justifiably be taken by those officers as evidence of his being willing to threaten their life to get away.

And that is what happened.

As I say, it is tragic...but these law enforcement people were not bafoons, murderers, or incompetent in the least. They were simply put into a bad situation by their superiors.

They did not need the strips to puncture the tires. They had a virtually impassable road block set up...perhaps they had the strips past that. My guess is that they had another road block beyond that one because we see other cars, near the end, arriving from that direction.


470 posted on 01/30/2016 10:14:55 AM PST by Jeff Head (Semper Fidelis - Molon Labe - Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: Jeff Head
He was no bafoon. He was doing exactly what they have been trained to do, and he was willing to risk injury or death to do so.

Law enforcement needs to lose the "Confrontation Uber Alles!" attitude and training.

I maintain that it was a stupid move. They could have accomplished the same thing by moving the wing vehicles 3-4 feet farther OFF the road, into the snowbanks.

473 posted on 01/30/2016 10:29:08 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: Jeff Head
They had a virtually impassable road block set up

That's not true, Jeff.

If buffoon coonhound hadn't bounded into Finicum's path, there's a very good chance that he would have made it around.

That speaks of unfamiliarity with snow, and how to use it.

474 posted on 01/30/2016 10:31:19 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: Jeff Head
Look - I agree with 90-95% of your thoughts.

We just disagree on the competence of the coonhound pack at the second roadblock.

Did you not see the comment from Ammon Bundy to his wife that I posted?

475 posted on 01/30/2016 10:32:47 AM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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