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To: PLMerite

I saw Finicum’s hands come down. Twice. The narrative is, from law enforcement, that he was going for a gun.

If he were shot before his hands came down can you then admit that it was a bad shoot?


344 posted on 01/29/2016 3:39:58 PM PST by saleman
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To: saleman
Remember how the narrative was that he was "charging law enforcement"?

When they realized they weren't going to be able to sell that particular load of pig slop, due to the 2-3 feet of snow they were all wallowing in, they had to come up with a backup narrative.

Of course, the NEW narrative depends on not disclosing the Ground Zero video tape, and its audio track.

346 posted on 01/29/2016 3:44:18 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: saleman

Supposedly he had a 9mm pistol in whatever pocket he was going for.

He was hopping around like his feet were on fire; hard to say exactly when he was shot. Honest men sometimes don’t realize that the cops aren’t kidding when they yell at you to do something “NOW!” It wouldn’t have been the first time that someone who wasn’t really a threat was killed in the heat of things.

One of the fundamentals of tactics is to try to see things through your opponent’s eyes. When your adversary is much more powerful than you, it is a must.


353 posted on 01/29/2016 4:09:43 PM PST by PLMerite (The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: saleman; All

Posted this way earlier.

I’ve examined the video closer and further after the roadblock. My determination is thus.

Truck crashes left of roadblock into 3-4 foot deep snow bank. Lavoy exits with hands raised intending to surrender, takes 5-10 steps away from the roadblock parallel to the road between the truck and treeline. As he gets to what will be the spot where he is murdered an agent or OSP officer comes out of the treeline to the left and fires a taser hitting Lavoy(you can see by the way the agent on the left holds his left arm out fully extended that that is the way tasers are fired, he was clearly not readying a sidearm). Lavoy’s hands drop due to thousands of volts of electricity going through his body and the agent on the right already in firing position with two hands on his sidearm fires killing Lavoy.

The drone or copter starts to circle the truck, some trees obscure the video however not very much. You can now see 3-4 flash bangs go off to the left of the driver side in the snow between truck and treeline. If you watch the passenger side which is closest to the road you can see multiple kick ups of snow from gunfire which are obviously not from inside. As the drone pans further around the windshield becomes visible, some snow is continuing to be kicked up by gunfire and the windshield has clearly been hammered. I can see at least 3, maybe 4 gunshots on the windshield. Possibly one on the roof of the driver side right behind the windshield.

I can see in no frame a weapon being drawn or any weapon whatsoever aimed, drawn, or fired by the occupants of the truck. The FBI and cops planned to ambush and kill whoever came out of that truck. It isn’t until more official vehicles arrive that the assault on the truck ends


363 posted on 01/29/2016 4:52:14 PM PST by FreedomStar3028 (Somebody has to step forward and do what is right because it is right, otherwise no one will follow.)
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