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Militant Shot and Killed While Charging Police, Driver Says. (Finally an eyewitness account)
Oregon Live ^

Posted on 01/27/2016 7:23:04 AM PST by The All Knowing All Seeing Oz

BURNS – Robert "LaVoy" Finicum, the spokesman of the refuge occupation, was shot and killed after he charged police during a roadside stop north of Burns on Tuesday, according to a man on Facebook who claims to be the driver of one of two vehicles involved in the highway shooting.

Mark McConnell posted a video to Facebook Wednesday morning, recounting the Tuesday afternoon scene that led to Finicum's death and the subsequent arrest of eight people involved in the Jan. 2 takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

His account emerged as police established new checkpoints on roads leading to the refuge, where an unknown number of occupiers remained. Police said only local property owners would be allowed through. The number and exact location of the checkpoints couldn't immediately be established.

Seven of those arrested Tuesday were taken overnight to Portland, where they were booked into the Multnomah County Detention Center.

They included Ammon E. Bundy, 40, of Emmett, Idaho; his brother, Ryan C. Bundy of Bunkerville, Nevada; Ryan W. Payne, 32, of Anaconda, Montana; Brian Cavalier, 44, of Bunkerville, Nevada; Shawna J. Cox, 59, of Kanab, Utah; Joseph D. Oshaughnessy, 43, of Cottonwood, Arizona; and Peter T. Santilli, 50, of Cinncinati.

An eighth person, Jon Ritzheimer, surrendered to police in Arizona.

They were each charged with conspiracy to interfere with a federal official, a felony.

In his video, McConnell said Ammon Bundy and Cavalier were in the vehicle he was driving to John Day for a community meeting. He said Finicum was driving a pickup that carried Ryan Bundy, Payne, Cox and an 18-year-old girl.

He said as they traveled on U.S. 395 police vehicles pulled in behind them and stopped them. McConnell said he was removed by police first, then Ammon Bundy then Cavalier.

He said Finicum's pickup was stopped about 200 yards away, and one passenger already was on the ground in handcuffs.

McConnell said Payne and Cox later recounted how Payne and Finicum got into a "heated discussion" about what to do.

"LaVoy was passionate about this, about the movement," McConnell said.

McConnell said he noticed movement, and Finicum "took off" in the pickup with the remaining passengers. He said Payne and Cox described encountering a police roadblock about a mile north on the highway and apparently tried to get around it, becoming stuck in the snow.

"When he exited the vehicle, the rear wheels were still spinning," McConnell said. "He charged at law enforcement" and was shot.

McConnell disputed earlier accounts on social media that Finicum was shot while on his knees with his hands up.

McConnell said he and the 18-year-old were taken to Burns for questioning and later released.

His account couldn't be immediately confirmed, but several details matched accounts from law enforcement sources.

Meantime, the status of those at the refuge was unclear early Wednesday as the FBI and Oregon State Police set up the checkpoints. Late Tuesday, they established roadblocks near the refuge headquarters, parking a large front-end loader across Sod House Lane.

The FBI was negotiating into the night for the remaining occupiers to leave. Several were allowed to leave without arrest.

"The containment procedure involves a series of checkpoints established along key routes into and out of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge," the agencies said in a joint news release.

A news conference was scheduled for 10:30 a.m. Wednesday in Burns. U.S. Attorney Billy Williams, FBI Special Agent in Charge Greg Bretzing and Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward were to address reporters.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: fedgovnazis; hearsay; sedition
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To: The All Knowing All Seeing Oz
Let's get the facts, rather than name calling.

fact 1. The Fed gunthugs are Gear Queers. They're all dressed up in their pretend soldier "Tactical" clothes.

fact 2. They have $15,000 submachine guns. Price an HK MP5 - not that they'd let a peasant like you buy one...

fact 3. Video cameras are EVERYWHERE in America.

fact 4. Video cameras are available to the poorest.

Sounds rational and real to me. Sounds like you're trying to deflect.

What's up with that?

81 posted on 01/27/2016 3:05:03 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: Lazamataz
A 55 year old man 'charges' police on foot. Rumors of 120 shots fired. Was he armed? News outlets describing this as a "shootout", but if only one side fired, how does that fit?

There is a lot of harping on the statements Finicum made a couple weeks earlier about how he'd rather die than to jail.

(Be careful what you say, people, unless you are willing to back it up.)

I'm waiting for more information, but it reminds me of Gordon Kahl, only these people apparently didn't shoot (back).

82 posted on 01/27/2016 3:05:53 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: TigerClaws
Been waiting for it.

Just need something to convince the LIV that those crazy Bible and gun clinging, Constitutionalist loving Crackers are scary and a greater threat than mohammaden jihadists or illegal invaders.

They'll gladly vote Dem and give up the last vestiges of Liberty in exchange for the illusion of "safety".

That and a government check, Oh, and a phone...don't forget the phone.

83 posted on 01/27/2016 3:09:19 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: The All Knowing All Seeing Oz; wardaddy
What interests me is that you were ALL OVER replying to my post, implying that my FACTS weren't rational [Nice Delphi move, BTW].

But when wardaddy posted something that guts the arguments about the Feds' supporting "eyewitness", you can't seem to find time to reply:

As wardaddy posted:

Feds have a huge hammer over anyone else armed in that car

They can be charged with murder because the cops shot their pal

Crazy but true

America is full of well intended but liberty stripping laws mostly initiated by conservatives under the guise of public safety


84 posted on 01/27/2016 3:09:44 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Yep.


85 posted on 01/27/2016 3:09:47 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: kiryandil

Yep. Sounds pretty ominous...and nebulous...could encompass just about anything and everything.


86 posted on 01/27/2016 3:18:46 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: The All Knowing All Seeing Oz

His so-called report is BS because first he says he was taken out of his car by LEOs and then the car with the soon-to-be dead guy took off a mile down the road.

The reporter would not have been able to see anything that happened a mile away.

BS.


87 posted on 01/27/2016 3:36:50 PM PST by savedbygrace (But God!)
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To: The All Knowing All Seeing Oz; administrator

Read what he said. He’s NOT an eyewitness. Your altered title for this article is not accurate and it is deceiving.


88 posted on 01/27/2016 4:29:54 PM PST by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: Scirparius

All I know so far from various reports is that this happened in Marxist-led Oregon, involved police who may or may not have shot like at Ruby Ridge, involved “militants” who may have become “belligerents”, not protestors, protestors who may have had some/all legitimate grievances against government policies (right or wrong, or mixed), and that the “state” will kill you even if you are no involved (AG Janet Reno had a major kill scorecard of over 70 men, women and children at Waco, a couple bystanders at Ruby Ridge).

Holder let the National Black Panther Party thugs off from charges of voter intimidation in Philadelphia (WhiteVotersDontMatter#), Al Sharpton is allowed to cross state lines to agitate violence and is never stopped by the feds, and the police are under attack in Baltimore but are not allowed to stop the rioters (just like Nancy Pelosi’s brother/mayor Tommy III did to white business owners in April 1968, Baltimore).

Seems that the most casualties of innocents and bystanders occur under Democrat administrations.

Just saying.

As for Oregon, no one, right now, knows the whole truth of what happened from start to finish. But it is Oregon, a state ruled by the Left who will squash any resistance, legal or otherwise. That’s the nature of the Red Beast.


89 posted on 01/27/2016 4:42:14 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: kiryandil

Such a murder charge would be a state charge. Some states would advance that prosecution, others would not.

I am not admitted in Oregon, so I don’t know the law there.

In the above, I’m making the assumption the shooting occurred on “state land” (non-federal land.)


90 posted on 01/27/2016 5:06:01 PM PST by The All Knowing All Seeing Oz (I carry a handgun because even a small police officer is too big and heavy to carry.)
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To: kiryandil

Tks


91 posted on 01/27/2016 5:19:13 PM PST by wardaddy (Trump or Cruz.......its win win folks......so take a John Riggins pill .......lie on the carpet)
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To: The All Knowing All Seeing Oz

You didn’t address the very real possibility that your source was coerced into this Facebook video post.


92 posted on 01/27/2016 5:20:26 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: The All Knowing All Seeing Oz; Smokin' Joe; trisham; xzins; kiryandil; MeganC; Lazamataz

Who needs dash cams or body cams when these people are local?

http://www.soaroregon.com/

“In Oregon, researchers are successfully studying the use of UAS in Agriculture, Forestry, Firefighting, Mineral Exploration, Search and Rescue, Wildlife Conservation, Geophysical Research, Infrastructure Maintenance and Environmental Monitoring.”

IMO, this whole deal has been surveilled in great detail from the git go. From the air.

Then again, the federalskis wouldn’t need “local” help.


93 posted on 01/27/2016 5:24:58 PM PST by disndat
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Just heard J. D. Hayworth say that LaVoy was killed during an exchange of gunfire...
Who was exchanging gunfire?
94 posted on 01/27/2016 5:30:42 PM PST by novemberslady
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To: eartick

Right.

This is the Ruby Ridge of the Obama thugs.


95 posted on 01/27/2016 5:31:10 PM PST by miserare ( "What difference does it make?"~~Benghazi Hil)
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To: novemberslady
habeas video
96 posted on 01/27/2016 5:32:15 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: novemberslady
There was no gunfire exchange, as far as we no at this point.

It appears to be a standard Media DeathStar line to sway the reader or listener into believing there was "a gunfight".

97 posted on 01/27/2016 5:33:35 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: novemberslady

See - a “gunfight” excuses the ambush-murder.


98 posted on 01/27/2016 5:34:20 PM PST by kiryandil ("When Muslims in the White House are outlawed, only Barack Obama will be an outlaw")
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To: kiryandil
CLIVEN BUNDY on RYAN & LAVOY SHOOTING
99 posted on 01/27/2016 5:44:32 PM PST by novemberslady
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To: RIghtwardHo

This situation has been building for quite some time.

Apparently the plans for resolution did not include non-lethal force as an initial response.

And you have no problem with that.


100 posted on 01/27/2016 6:02:42 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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