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Militant Shot and Killed While Charging Police, Driver Says. (Finally an eyewitness account)
Oregon Live ^

Posted on 01/27/2016 7:23:04 AM PST by The All Knowing All Seeing Oz

BURNS – Robert "LaVoy" Finicum, the spokesman of the refuge occupation, was shot and killed after he charged police during a roadside stop north of Burns on Tuesday, according to a man on Facebook who claims to be the driver of one of two vehicles involved in the highway shooting.

Mark McConnell posted a video to Facebook Wednesday morning, recounting the Tuesday afternoon scene that led to Finicum's death and the subsequent arrest of eight people involved in the Jan. 2 takeover of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge.

His account emerged as police established new checkpoints on roads leading to the refuge, where an unknown number of occupiers remained. Police said only local property owners would be allowed through. The number and exact location of the checkpoints couldn't immediately be established.

Seven of those arrested Tuesday were taken overnight to Portland, where they were booked into the Multnomah County Detention Center.

They included Ammon E. Bundy, 40, of Emmett, Idaho; his brother, Ryan C. Bundy of Bunkerville, Nevada; Ryan W. Payne, 32, of Anaconda, Montana; Brian Cavalier, 44, of Bunkerville, Nevada; Shawna J. Cox, 59, of Kanab, Utah; Joseph D. Oshaughnessy, 43, of Cottonwood, Arizona; and Peter T. Santilli, 50, of Cinncinati.

An eighth person, Jon Ritzheimer, surrendered to police in Arizona.

They were each charged with conspiracy to interfere with a federal official, a felony.

In his video, McConnell said Ammon Bundy and Cavalier were in the vehicle he was driving to John Day for a community meeting. He said Finicum was driving a pickup that carried Ryan Bundy, Payne, Cox and an 18-year-old girl.

He said as they traveled on U.S. 395 police vehicles pulled in behind them and stopped them. McConnell said he was removed by police first, then Ammon Bundy then Cavalier.

He said Finicum's pickup was stopped about 200 yards away, and one passenger already was on the ground in handcuffs.

McConnell said Payne and Cox later recounted how Payne and Finicum got into a "heated discussion" about what to do.

"LaVoy was passionate about this, about the movement," McConnell said.

McConnell said he noticed movement, and Finicum "took off" in the pickup with the remaining passengers. He said Payne and Cox described encountering a police roadblock about a mile north on the highway and apparently tried to get around it, becoming stuck in the snow.

"When he exited the vehicle, the rear wheels were still spinning," McConnell said. "He charged at law enforcement" and was shot.

McConnell disputed earlier accounts on social media that Finicum was shot while on his knees with his hands up.

McConnell said he and the 18-year-old were taken to Burns for questioning and later released.

His account couldn't be immediately confirmed, but several details matched accounts from law enforcement sources.

Meantime, the status of those at the refuge was unclear early Wednesday as the FBI and Oregon State Police set up the checkpoints. Late Tuesday, they established roadblocks near the refuge headquarters, parking a large front-end loader across Sod House Lane.

The FBI was negotiating into the night for the remaining occupiers to leave. Several were allowed to leave without arrest.

"The containment procedure involves a series of checkpoints established along key routes into and out of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge," the agencies said in a joint news release.

A news conference was scheduled for 10:30 a.m. Wednesday in Burns. U.S. Attorney Billy Williams, FBI Special Agent in Charge Greg Bretzing and Harney County Sheriff Dave Ward were to address reporters.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: fedgovnazis; hearsay; sedition
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To: Vaquero
Sounds like suicide by cop.

And the Branch Davidians in Waco started the fire that killed them all.

21 posted on 01/27/2016 7:55:05 AM PST by TexasCajun (#BlackViolenceMatters)
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To: RIghtwardHo
You are making a conclusion based on two witnesses, either or both who may be intimately related to the Federal government. I want a video. Certainly there was one or more.

I shall reserve judgement until a vid is available.

22 posted on 01/27/2016 7:56:39 AM PST by Lazamataz (I'm an Islamophobe??? Well, good. When it comes to Islam, there's plenty to Phobe about.)
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To: The All Knowing All Seeing Oz

wow. that is 180 degrees different from the other post.

but it answers my question about whether there are still protesters occupying the federal holding.


23 posted on 01/27/2016 7:57:48 AM PST by dadfly
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To: The All Knowing All Seeing Oz
And the obfuscation begins...

A known questionable “source” that just happens to provide cover for the Feds...

While the gal who was actually in the car with LaVoy tells a completely different tale.

24 posted on 01/27/2016 8:03:30 AM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: Lazamataz

Agreed.


25 posted on 01/27/2016 8:04:12 AM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: The All Knowing All Seeing Oz

“real news...?” lol, surely you’re joking. that’s like saying “military intelligence.”


26 posted on 01/27/2016 8:06:45 AM PST by dadfly
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To: RIghtwardHo

One witness collaborated the story of the first who admitted he saw nothing, was too far away to see what happened, and only heard about what happened from someone still in police custody


27 posted on 01/27/2016 8:08:42 AM PST by usmcobra (Happiness is a belt fed weapon.)
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To: The All Knowing All Seeing Oz

Unfortunately, the account of the shooting is literally hearsay.


28 posted on 01/27/2016 8:10:28 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: The All Knowing All Seeing Oz

The feds have been chomping at the bit to do some shooting. It’s what they do. Never mind that it’s other Americans that they’re shooting.


29 posted on 01/27/2016 8:14:09 AM PST by lakecumberlandvet (APPEASEMENT NEVER WORKS.)
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To: lacrew

exactly.


30 posted on 01/27/2016 8:24:05 AM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: The All Knowing All Seeing Oz

Go here and listen to the interview of a girl in the car:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3389222/posts

I doubt a 70+ year old would be ‘charging’. That’s the age I’ve heard given for Finicum, but I’ve not confirmed it.

In any case, the girl says he was out of the car walking toward them with his hands in the air.


31 posted on 01/27/2016 8:36:35 AM PST by xzins (Have YOU Donated to the Freep-a-Thon? https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Dead Corpse

Many thanks for the info!


32 posted on 01/27/2016 8:36:50 AM PST by WildHighlander57 ((WildHighlander57, returning after lurking since 2000)
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To: RIghtwardHo

There may be two witnesses.

But we have yet to hear form them.

We only know what this guy claims they told him.


33 posted on 01/27/2016 8:37:37 AM PST by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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To: WildHighlander57

Waiting to see if video surfaces. That’ll cut through a lot of the BS that will be coming from both sides...

Depending on which one the video supports, this could get ugly real quick.


34 posted on 01/27/2016 8:40:50 AM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To: The All Knowing All Seeing Oz

Authorities effed up another one. Covering up what really happened. The feds have been itching to kill someone involved in the mess.


35 posted on 01/27/2016 8:44:06 AM PST by subterfuge (TED CRUZ FOR POTUS!)
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To: Lazamataz

There won’t be any video forthcoming.

The media screams that cops ‘must all have body cameras’! when it’s Freddi Gray, but when the people they hate (patriots) get blown away, video isn’t an issue for them.


36 posted on 01/27/2016 8:51:27 AM PST by subterfuge (TED CRUZ FOR POTUS!)
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To: The All Knowing All Seeing Oz
hmmm...

White American Guy = Militant

Obama = Community Organizer

Bill Ayers = Mentor to Community Organizer

Jeremiah Wright = Pastor Emeritus

Frank Marshall Davis = Political and Labor Movement Activist

Eric Holder = 82nd Attorney General of the U.S.

(who in 1970 participated in an alleged armed takeover of the ROTC office at Columbia University as a member of SAAS - Student Afro-American Society; an organization that actively supported the Black Panthers)

37 posted on 01/27/2016 8:56:43 AM PST by floozy22
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To: Mechanicos
Others are saying the guy was trying to negotiate a surrender.

It does not matter, last time I heard charging a police officer is not a capital offense, nor is deadly force appropriate unless the charging suspect is armed.

38 posted on 01/27/2016 9:00:02 AM PST by usurper (Liberals GET OFF MY LAWN)
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To: Dead Corpse
Depending on which one the video supports, this could get ugly real quick.

You're assuming that video that contradicts the feds will actually be released.

I wouldn't bet on that assumption.

39 posted on 01/27/2016 9:03:06 AM PST by zeugma (Want to know what freedom smells like? Hoppes #9.)
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To: zeugma
I wouldn't bet on that assumption.

I guess that'll depend on who does the releasing of said video.

I would note that the original Bundy Ranch stnadoff Government narrative fell apart pretty quick. As did the official story on the biker shootout.

The truth usually finds a way.

40 posted on 01/27/2016 9:05:03 AM PST by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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