Please educate yourself on what was done to the Hammonds and the quest of the federal gov't to destroy their livelihood and take their land.
To equate this to the black lives matters rioting and lootings is disingenuous and despicable.
BTW I don't know what happened at the stop but common sense tells me that it was not a "routine traffic stop"
I doubt that further conversation will be fruitful.
Goodnight.
I did not see or note that you wrote it, but look at some of the threads repeating the alleged statement that the man had his hands up when he was shot as if it was gospel. Do a word search for the word murder. How is that different than what BLM alleges by law enforcement?
I think the sentence for the Hammonds was harsh. No argument there, but I believe their chances of getting the mandatory time knocked down were far better before Bundy and crew barged into the picture. Congress are the ones that need to fix the law and as someone who lives in the middle of wildfire country on acreage there is a right way to light a fire and a wrong way that endangers others property and the lives of firefighters. Was not there and don’t know what happened, but they were convicted of it.
The media seems to have labeled it as a “routine traffic stop.” The FBI does not do traffic stops and I am sure it was a felony stop designed to overwhelm them given the comments many of the occupiers have made. There was only going to be one ending for this and it was not a situation the FBI created.
BLM has their faults, but I own graze and I don’t let people park their cows on my pasture for free. I know ranchers and BLM is not price gouging anyone on graze by any stretch - I don’t know if it’s fair to call it subsidizing by the government because the cows grazing on public lands can make those lands much healthier. There is definitely room for improvement and I would like to see local communities derive more from the public lands that surround them, but using some of the arguments I heard from this group the land should be given back to the Native Americans. They have a far stronger claim than “pappy and grandpappy ran cows here.”
I have said repeatedly that better things could be done in the management of the land, but anybody familiar with the politics of Western Oregon (dominates the state) is in for a rude awakening if the government just handed the land over to Oregon. Same with Washington. That is reality. I was predisposed to have some sympathy for the land use argument, but the assertions of this group never made any sense to me from a logical standpoint.
It's sickening to me that this Finicum guy bought the whole scam hook, line, and sinker and now he's dead because he's the only one in the group who acted on his convictions.
There's a lot of big talk on this forum, yet I don't think anyone posting here is typing with one hand on his phone with the other on his rifle from inside Malheur.
People here seem angry that the feds didn't repeat Waco or something.
They're also criticizing other militias and voluntary organizations like III% and Oath Keepers for not intervening violently - why aren't they there intervening? Why are the other groups cowards?
Why are these keyboard warriors in a position to criticize?