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Why Cruz, Sanders have an advantage in Iowa
CNN's GANT News ^ | January 24, 2016 | Staff

Posted on 01/24/2016 9:56:04 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: brothers4thID
From the link you posted:

The party has clarified the nomination requirements for candidates at the convention.

Each candidate for nomination for President of the United States and Vice President of the United States shall demonstrate the support of a majority of ... delegates from ... 8 or more states ... [T]he affirmative written support ... shall have been submitted to the secretary of the convention ... prior to the placing of the names of candidates for nomination .... [Rule 40(b)]

And yep, bookmarking the site.

61 posted on 01/24/2016 11:32:55 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: 5thGenTexan
Well, Trump IS winning Texas right now.

OTOH, Trump will probably win N.Y.,CT.,Mass.,N.H., Pa., N.J.,and Florida, which is 7 right there.

Forget delegate count right now; it's winning a non-proportional state OUTRIGHT, just to be eligible to be nominated!

62 posted on 01/24/2016 11:33:15 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

What you’re looking for is rule 40, and it is in the quoted site.


63 posted on 01/24/2016 11:35:09 PM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: kingu
Thanks...I guess I didn't go far enough down the page. At least I was correct, though.

That's better than not knowing about it! ;^)

64 posted on 01/24/2016 11:38:54 PM PST by nopardons
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

“Hush Bimbo” Must be a Savage listener. Don’t remember Rush, or Levin being against Newt. I was really disappointed when Romney and the Virginia GOP was able to keep him off the ballot. I have been very disappointed in the Obama’s destruction of NASA’s Manned space program and Newt really excited me with his vision of a revitalized NASA program. Would like to hear Cruz or Trump’s take on NASA and restoring America to its former glory (No more depending on the Russians for launch)

op


65 posted on 01/24/2016 11:39:10 PM PST by Dstorm (Cruz 2016)
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To: sagar; 2ndDivisionVet; Greetings_Puny_Humans; justlittleoleme; All

Tweeting may be where the future is, but caucuses are the present in Iowa. Did anyone see The Good Wife episode about the Iowa Democrat caucus vote? Is the Republican system the same?


66 posted on 01/25/2016 12:05:27 AM PST by gleeaikin
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To: nopardons

In case you missed it, read post 61, this thread. Another poster found it and posted the text. You are correct.


67 posted on 01/25/2016 12:10:05 AM PST by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: kingu

Ahh thank you for your careful investigation. Much appreciated.


68 posted on 01/25/2016 12:12:40 AM PST by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: nopardons

That rule says a majority of delegates from 8 states. Technically that could be the majority of delegates from a proportional state like Iowa or NH.

Also, thought you might be interested in:

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/12/13/why_rule_40_wont_affect_the_gop_primary_outcome_129012.html


69 posted on 01/25/2016 12:16:26 AM PST by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: Dstorm
“Hush Bimbo” Must be a Savage listener. Don’t remember Rush, or Levin being against Newt

Rush played coy on bloody thursday and even added wood to the fire while pretending to straddle the fence. He also gave his microphone over to Mark Steyn, whose contempt for Newt was palpable. It wasn't until after Newt was gone did Hush Bimbo come out and start lamenting the inaccurate and false stories pushed by Drudge/Romney on bloody thursday, though on the day itself he had an entirely different tune.

Hush was a Romney guy that nomination cycle, which is why he did his best to protect Santorum from criticism despite how vapid a candidate he was.

70 posted on 01/25/2016 12:17:27 AM PST by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: brothers4thID

NO...the rule is OUTRIGHT, NOT “majority” of delegates.


71 posted on 01/25/2016 12:30:49 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

That’s not what I’m reading.

Instead of the five states a candidate had to win in 2012, a candidate had to win at least eight in 2016. And adding to that, a candidate could no longer skirt by with just plurality control of the the delegation. The rules adopted in Tampa for 2016 upped that to a majority. The raising of the number of states is not really of much consequence. But bumping that control threshold up from just one more delegate than your next nearest competitor to having to control half of the delegates in a state’s delegation plus one is a potentially significant change.
http://frontloading.blogspot.com/2015/12/the-real-import-of-rule-40-in-2016.html?m=1


72 posted on 01/25/2016 12:35:16 AM PST by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: brothers4thID

We’ll find out at the Convention; perhaps.


73 posted on 01/25/2016 12:37:48 AM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

Maybe. As that first article I posted points out, the Rules committee can certainly change things.

Now, back to the discussion of delegate organization. Do you have some insight into Trump’s campaign to secure favorable delegates to the convention? I would be genuinely interested to hear about it. As I said, I only have insight into the process in 3 states, and only small portions of two of those.


74 posted on 01/25/2016 12:44:48 AM PST by brothers4thID ("We've had way too many Republicans whose #1 virtue is "I get along great with Democrats".")
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To: Dstorm
Don't remember Rush, or Levin being against Newt.

I sure do, and Brit Hume lost me forever when he trashed Newt the night of his big win in South Carolina. Mark Levin was all Santorum all the time. Stopped listening to Rush after he gave Newt a good thrashing re the PAC video re Bain Capitol.

75 posted on 01/25/2016 3:18:22 AM PST by Abby4116
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To: brothers4thID
I've yet to see a realistic assessment of the delegate counts that doesn't have a brokered convention between Trump and some other candidate.

It isn't winner-take-all until after March 15.

A brokered convention seems possible, and it's hard for me to imagine supporters of other candidates wanting to form a coalition with Trump.

76 posted on 01/25/2016 3:27:30 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas (Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: PJBankard

You mean like the ligit questions about obamas citizenship? Somehow he still managed to win. Twice.


77 posted on 01/25/2016 4:18:27 AM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: caww
Trump's a bully. It was nice when he was going up against Jeb who no one wanted force-fed down our throats but now that he's continued to bully everyone who gets in his way or says a negative word about him, the act is beyond wearing thin. I've had enough. I can't stand to listen to 4 years of this behavior that's in the rudest New York tradition. I shudder to think how he'd behave as President. You have to wonder how much the police state would increase for him to get revenge on everyone he wants to. I see enemies lists in his future, retribution through the IRS and in every other way he could get away with. He'd govern like a vindictive Democrat like Clinton and Obama, not as an honorable, decent man like Reagan or the Bushes.

I found this article full of horrible quotes from Trump's longtime lawyer threatening to sue and bankrupt a reporter who was going to write a negative story on Trump last year. The bullying tactics on display here are outrageous, utterly shameful, disgusting and un-American.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/27/ex-wife-donald-trump-made-feel-violated-during-sex.html

"I will make sure that you and I meet one day while we're in the courthouse. And I will take you for every penny you still don't have. And I will come after your Daily Beast and everybody else that you possibly know," Cohen said. "So I'm warning you, tread very f*cking lightly, because what I'm going to do to you is going to be f*cking disgusting. You understand me?"

78 posted on 01/25/2016 4:27:43 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: nopardons
Well, Trump IS winning Texas right now.

Absolutely incorrect. Cruz is up 15 points in a new poll. Are you the same guy I caught in another thread claiming Trump is winning Texas or is this some kind of empty viral hype going around?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/tx/texas_republican_presidential_primary-3622.html

79 posted on 01/25/2016 4:32:46 AM PST by JediJones (The #1 Must-see Filibuster of the Year: TEXAS TED AND THE CONSERVATIVE CRUZ-ADE)
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To: nopardons
Winning a majority is outright winning.

And if the rule is accurately quoted above, "majority of ... delegates from ... 8 or more states ..."

80 posted on 01/25/2016 4:38:45 AM PST by Cboldt
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