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To: MamaTexan
Except we weren't talking about Cruz, I was correcting your ignorance.

You are unwarrantedly arrogant.

And yes, there laws DO have relevance as far as them making him a citizen is concerned. If they didn't he wouldn't be waving around a Canadian birth certifica

And here you veer off into the totally nonsensical.

You would have realized this were you as well-versed in Vattel as you claim to be.

Vattel has really nothing to do with Canadian Statute law and it is not necessary to make reference to Vattel in order to understand it.

Cruz's father claimed refugee status when he left Cuba with no intention to return, and resided in Canada for several years. Thus he had *quit his country*, become a member of a new society, and his son became a member of it also.

Rafael Cruz had left Cuba, and indeed if it is Cuba to which you refer, then he had "quit his country". But he had NOT quit the United States, where he was resident and legal. Eventually he did so, but Ted Cruz's mother did not, and bequeathed her citizenship to her son.

The primacy of blood does not negate the necessity of the soil.

Yes, it does. "By the law of nature alone, children follow the condition of their fathers, and enter into all their rights; the place of birth produces no change in this particular, and cannot, of itself, furnish any reason for taking from a child what nature has given him..."

You're conclusion that Vattel intended foreign born children of citizens to be natural born when he clearly did not define them as such is just as flawed as your original contention that Canada had no such term as natural born.

I beg to disagree.

84 posted on 01/24/2016 6:18:03 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine
children follow the condition of their fathers,

Following the condition of their fathers means they are citizens of the same country as their fathers, but not the same TYPE of citizen. If it were meant otherwise, it would say the words *natural born* in that section, but it does not.

Vattel defined ONE set of circumstances for being natural born - born in the country of parents who are it's citizens.

Have a nice day.

86 posted on 01/24/2016 6:23:31 PM PST by MamaTexan (I am a person as created by the Law of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man.)
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