I’m disappointed that you have decided to depart from our prior civil discourse.
‘Subject to the jurisdiction’ is not even primarily a territorial notion. First and foremost it relates to whether or not a government can assert a right of sovereignty over an individual for the purposes of taxation, military service, jury duty, issuance of a passport, access to consular services, etc. Surely there may be a territorial element asserted in determination, but if this phrase were exclusively territorial as you say then it would be utterly redundant in the 14th Amendment as written.
Then, surely, you are not suggesting that Americans, such as myself, who are resident in another country are not ‘subject to the jurisdiction of the United States.’ That would be an astonishing assertion that is simply not true. I can tell you that, whether you are aware or not, the United States considers me VERY much subject to their jurisdiction, and I am so, as a matter of law, not mere opinion. If I were not a citizen of the US I probably could not be forced to submit IRS Form W9 to my foreign bank each year or face legal consequences - and not just in the US. Extradition has nothing to do with it - and this reference demonstrates your misunderstanding of the the phrase actually means.
I am not going to get into a discussion of Ted Cruz here. You know the facts and I know the facts, and they re what they are.
But, I will repeat my contention that the United states will not allow the operation of foreign laws to determine who is and who is not a US citizen.
The US certainly will do so if required to determine whether person is or is not a citizen of Italy, Canadsa, France or West Baboonistan. I have never denied this, so your making a point of it is a gratuitous red herring. This was never my point and you know it.
I’d welcome a return to your previous civil demeanor.
I think that's a lie too, but so what either way.
-- 'Subject to the jurisdiction' is not even primarily a territorial notion. --
Oh? So you are going to side with the dissent in WKA for now, and later you are going to side with the majority.
No matter, when citizen Cruz is born in Canada, he is not subject to US jurisdiction no matter how you slice it. The US doesn't even know he exists. In order for the US to know he exists, he must be presented to the US for the purpose of adjudicating his claim to US citizenship.
You are just playing word games. You are dishonest in argument. You see the word "extradition," then spin off a couple paragraphs of crap as a diversion.
-- I will repeat my contention that the United states will not allow the operation of foreign laws to determine who is and who is not a US citizen. --
That's a strawman of your own making. You, putting words in my mouth.
-- I'd welcome a return to your previous civil demeanor. --
Don't hold your breath. Your presence on this forum is a disservice.
Did you not see the case of IRACHETA v. HOLDER?