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Collective naturalization refers to any class of persons who by authority of Congress are declared to be citizens. As, for example, the case of the annexation of foreign territory, or the enactments conferring citizenship upon foreign-born children of citizens.

Frankly I am having a bit of trouble truing to decipher this. So let me repeat for clarity, and this is not my opinion, this is the US Code: The term 'collective naturalization' refers ONLY to living people, in other words people who are already born, i.e. AFTER BIRTH, when for one reason or another it becomes necessary to provide citizenship to an entire group of people, as for example in the case of annexation.

Collective naturalization NEVER refers to citizenship at birth. NEVER. Repeat, NEVER.

Please read and understand the law on the subject. Naturalization - ALL FORMS OF NATURALIZATION - only applies to individuals who are already alive and not already citizens. It NEVER applies to citizenship at birth.

A person born out of the jurisdiction of the United States can only become a citizen by being naturalized

either by 

    treaty, as in the case of the annexation of foreign territory, 

or by 

    authority of congress, exercised 
	
    either by 
	
        declaring certain classes of persons to be citizens, as in the enactments conferring citizenship upon foreign-born children of citizens, 
	
    or by 

        enabling foreigners individually to become citizens by proceedings in the judicial tribunals, as in the ordinary provisions of the naturalization acts.

U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649, 702-703

-- Please read and understand the law on the subject. Naturalization - ALL FORMS OF NATURALIZATION - only applies to individuals who are already alive and not already citizens. It NEVER applies to citizenship at birth. --

You wave off Rogers v. Bellei and numerous other cases that have been cited to you. Your assertion is not supported by case law, and in fact, case law stands for the opposite of what you claim. Citizenship-at-birth to those born abroad is always naturalization.

Petitioner, having been born outside the territory of the United States, is an alien as far as the Constitution is concerned, and "can only become a citizen by being naturalized, either by treaty, as in the case of the annexation of foreign territory; or by authority of Congress."

Scalia Concurring Opinion in Miller v. Albright, 523 U.S. 420 (1998)

The INS handbooks and similar references are chock full of imprecise contentions. The imprecision is useful shorthand for operation of the INS. But it isn't the law, and you know it isn't the law, and yet you persist in spreading falsehood. That is despicable, on your part. But, I must say, you are at least consistently despicable.