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Cruz: No Actual Voters Ask About the ‘Silly Birther Attack’
Breitbart ^ | 24 Jan 2016 | Pam Key

Posted on 01/24/2016 2:17:53 PM PST by Isara

Sunday on Fox News Channel’s “MediaBuzz,” while discussing the controversy over if his birth in Canada to an American citizen mother causes him to be not eligible to run for president of the United States, Republican presidential candidate Sen. Ted Cruz ..... no “actual voters” ask him about the issue.

Cruz said, “We were in the midst of a bus tour, 26 counties in six days, enormous enthusiasm, but from what you look, looking at the media, it was a great field test. We would do, at pretty much every event, a press gaggle -by the way, a lot of other candidates don’t do press gaggles. I take questions all the time. Half to two thirds of the questions from the reporters would be about Donald Trump and the latest attack, the latest Tweet. When you go into the town hall, one county, 7,000 people, in one county we had 700 people. 10% of the county came out. Another town with 600 people, 150 came –”

He continued, “But here’s my point, Howie. When we do town halls and actual voters would ask questions, nobody would ask about the silly birther attack nobody would ask about Donald Trump. They ask about the real problems facing this country. How do we defeat ISIS? How do we stop Iran from getting nuclear weapons? How do we protect our Second Amendment or religious liberty? How do we get more jobs?”

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 1stcanadiansenator; birther; canadian; cruz; dividedloyalty; dualcitizenship; ineligible; naturalborncitizen; naturalizedcandidate; tcruz; tds; tedcruz; usualsuspect
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To: Sacajaweau
My problem with Cruz....he doesn't listen to anyone.

This is the silliest, most absurd thing I have seen in print about Ted Cruz. Obviously you haven't been paying attention to Cruz on the campaign trail..

21 posted on 01/24/2016 2:42:19 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine

They just make it up as they go.


22 posted on 01/24/2016 2:43:03 PM PST by Hoodat (Article 4, Section 4)
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To: Isara

Ummmm... I do, and I vote

Why does it matter to me? Simple.

If TCruz gets the nomination, then the following week the DNC will file for him to be disqualified. The argument will hit the courts and about a month before the election, the SCOTUS will rule the Canadian/cuban/american guy born in Canada is not a natural born US citizen, in accordance with the Constitution.

This will leave the GOP scrambling fora candidate... which will result in the dems winning ona walk.

Either get it resolved NOW by the SCOTUS or sit down and stfu


23 posted on 01/24/2016 2:44:04 PM PST by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Isara
When we do town halls and actual voters would ask questions, nobody would ask about the silly birther attack

That makes no logical sense.

People who come to a candidate's town hall are already leaning towards voting for him anyway and want him to clarify a position.

Cruz has already stated he's eligible, so what would be the point of someone believing he wasn't eligible even bothering to show up?

24 posted on 01/24/2016 2:44:06 PM PST by MamaTexan (I am a person as created by the Law of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man.)
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To: Isara
There has to be a reason why Cruz never actually defends this. Maybe because its obvious on its face.

Naturalized Citizen Law & Legal Definition

A naturalized citizen is a person who was born an alien, but has lawfully become a citizen of the United States under the U.S. Constitution and laws.

Cruz was born an alien but made a citizen through law (Congress).

25 posted on 01/24/2016 2:44:43 PM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

“F-U Ted. For someone who supposedly reveres the Constitution as written, it’s not a good look to go around dismissively insulting those of us who are concerned that it be followed.”

Just a quick question. If Cruz revered the Constitution as you say, wouldn’t he if anyone know if he was eligible or not? And if he wasn’t, would he really try to undermine the one document he says he is beholden to?

Maybe the media should come out and ask him why he isn’t eligible. I would like to hear that answer. Know why they don’t? Because they want to keep this in the media for as long as possible. Cruz answers the question and now you put every legal scholar and SCOTUS on notice.


26 posted on 01/24/2016 2:45:33 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The Trump/Cruz war is a media generated war so the establishment can stay in power.)
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To: Sacajaweau

Canada does not have ‘natural born citizenship’, dummass. That’s a peculiar US conception. Ted Cruz had Canadian citizenship SOLELY and ONLY because of Canadian statute law. Don’t make more of it that that. Or, look like an idiot: your choice.


27 posted on 01/24/2016 2:45:49 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Sacajaweau

Wow!!! I’m glad you have this all wrapped up!

Who do you talk to in the trump campaign? Can you get me trumps autograph???


28 posted on 01/24/2016 2:47:23 PM PST by Snark
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To: Kenny
Cruz was born an alien but made a citizen through law (Congress).

Complete horsecrap. Ted Cruz has been a US Citizen since the moment he first drew breath.

29 posted on 01/24/2016 2:47:44 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Isara
Ted....I vote, I ask...

And you were my first choice my only choice by a wide margin for the last three years.....

I knew the issue from day one.. I expected YOU to the take the issue of your birth status seriously...I trusted you...i trusted you as being one of with the smartest lawyers in the country that you have this all taken care of... but it seems now that just had your head in the sand in denial that it would be and issue...you cannot possibly believe that you cannot possibly been that naive

Before he got in in 2008....McCain the non lawyer rino did take the issue seriously about his birth in Panama ......and he has two US citizen parents and born on a US military base.. McCain got the issue sign off on before he got in....... and that was before the 8 years of stink about Obama birth status.......

But you didn't...even after all the Obama birth stuff......with the Democrats on the left just salivating for payback..

You didn't address your own issues...so now ..now that the issue has popped up...now that its hurting your ...how do we not see this as nothing but irresponsible on your part...dont blame us....you did this to yourself... you didnt get ahead of this

30 posted on 01/24/2016 2:49:45 PM PST by tophat9000 (King G(OP)eorge III has no idea why the Americans Patriot%s are in rebellion... teach him why)
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To: John Valentine
Complete horsecrap. Ted Cruz has been a US Citizen since the moment he first drew breath.

No argument, a naturalized citizen.

31 posted on 01/24/2016 2:50:09 PM PST by Kenny (RED)
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To: AnnGora

Exactly.

The TV Series “Fargo” this year was set in 1978 and featured Ronald Reagan on the campaign trail. After one speech the local lawyer sidled up to the state cop providing security and said “If you get a chance, ask him if it’s true that Joan Crawford had crabs”. To which the cop replied, “No, I’m not going to do that”.

Few people are going to ask a Presidential candidate an embarrassing question they know will not be answered honestly.


32 posted on 01/24/2016 2:52:20 PM PST by bigbob ("Victorious warriors win first ande then go to war" Sun Tzu.)
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To: AnnGora

“As if he would accept it...”

If he’ll accept Beck’s music man circus act, he’ll accept anything.


33 posted on 01/24/2016 2:52:51 PM PST by proust (Texan for Trump! Born in the USA!)
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To: deport

He probably doesn’t need to because Trump will have it locked up in a few weeks anyway and it will be moot. Blowing it off only makes that more likely.


34 posted on 01/24/2016 2:55:05 PM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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To: deport

“Cruz needs to get into real life about this issue.”

Don’t hold your breath. Not even the name is real.


35 posted on 01/24/2016 2:57:00 PM PST by Psalm 144 (Raphael Edward: 'Forgetfulness' with a smirk)
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To: Kenny

Depends on the meaning of ‘naturalized’, and on the degree of sovereignty ‘We the People’ are permitted to exercise over our own destiny.


36 posted on 01/24/2016 2:58:20 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall
Rep. John A. Bingham commenting on Section 1992 of U.S. Revised Statutes (1866) said: it means every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.

(Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))

John Armor Bingham (January 21, 1815 – March 19, 1900) was an American Republican congressman from the U.S. state of Ohio, judge advocate in the trial of the Abraham Lincoln assassination and a prosecutor in the impeachment trials of Andrew Johnson. He is also the principal framer of the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution.

The first section of the second article of the Constitution uses the language, a natural-born citizen. It thus assumes that citizenship may be acquired by birth. Undoubtedly, this language of the Constitution was used in reference to that principle of public law, well understood in this country at the time of the adoption of the Constitution, which referred citizenship to the place of birth.

Justice Curtis in his dissenting opinion of the Dred Scott decision and speaking specifically of atural born citizens and article II, section I, clause 5

It is an established maxim that birth is a criterion of allegiance. Birth however derives its force sometimes from place and sometimes from parentage, but in general place is the most certain criterion; it is what applies in the United States; it will therefore be unnecessary to investigate any other.”

James Madison

“The doctrine of the common law is that every man born within its jurisdiction is a subject of the sovereign of the country where he is born, and allegiance is not personal to the sovereign in the extent that has been contended for; it is due to him in his political capacity of sovereign of the territory where the person owing the allegiance as born.”

Kilham v. Ward 2 Mass. 236, 26 (1806)

“As the President is required to be a native citizen of the United States…. Natives are all persons born within the jurisdiction and allegiance of the United States.”

James Kent, COMMENTARIES ON AMERICAN LAW (1826)

“That provision in the constitution which requires that the president shall be a native-born citizen (unless he were a citizen of the United States when the constitution was adopted) is a happy means of security against foreign influence,…A very respectable political writer makes the following pertinent remarks upon this subject. “Prior to the adoption of the constitution, the people inhabiting the different states might be divided into two classes: natural born citizens, or those born within the state, and aliens, or such as were born out of it.”

St. George Tucker, BLACKSTONE’S COMMENTARIES (1803)

“Allegiance is nothing more than the tie or duty of obedience of a subject to the sovereign under whose protection he is, and allegiance by birth is that which arises from being born within the dominions and under the protection of a particular sovereign. Two things usually concur to create citizenship: first, birth locally within the dominions of the sovereign, and secondly, birth within the protection and obedience, or, in other words, within the allegiance of the sovereign….That the father and mother of the demandant were British born subjects is admitted. If he was born before 4 July, 1776, it is as clear that he was born a British subject. If he was born after 4 July, 1776, and before 15 September, 1776 [the date the British occupied New York], he was born an American citizen, whether his parents were at the time of his birth British subjects or American citizens. Nothing is better settled at the common law than the doctrine that the children even of aliens born in a country while the parents are resident there under the protection of the government and owing a temporary allegiance thereto are subjects by birth.”

Justice Story, concurring opinion,Inglis v. Sailors’ Snug Harbor, 3 Pet. 99, 155,164. (1830)

“The country where one is born, how accidental soever his birth in that place may have been, and although his parents belong to another country, is that to which he owes allegiance. Hence the expression natural born subject or citizen, & all the relations thereout growing. To this there are but few exceptions, and they are mostly introduced by statutes and treaty regulations, such as the children of seamen and ambassadors born abroad, and the like.”

Leake v. Gilchrist, 13 N.C. 73 (N.C. 1829)

“Therefore every person born within the United States, its territories or districts, whether the parents are citizens or aliens, is a natural born citizen in the sense of the Constitution, and entitled to all the rights and privileges appertaining to that capacity.”

William Rawle, A View of the Constitution of the United States, pg. 86 (1829)

The right of citizenship never descends in the legal sense, either by the common law or under the common naturalization acts. It is incident to birth in the country, or it is given personally by statute. The child of an alien, if born in the country, is as much a citizen as the natural born child of a citizen, and by operation of the same principle

Horace Binney, American Law Register, 2 Amer.Law Reg.193, 203, 204, 206, 208 (February 1854).

“That all natural born citizens, or persons born within the limits of the United States, and all aliens subject to the restrictions hereinafter mentioned, may inherit real estate and make their pedigree by descent from any ancestor lineal or collateral…”

January 28, 1838, Acts of the State of Tennessee passed at the General Assembly, pg. 266 (1838)

“The term citizen, was used in the constitution as a word, the meaning of which was already established and well understood. And the constitution itself contains a direct recognition of the subsisting common law principle, in the section which defines the qualification of the President… The only standard which then existed, of a natural born citizen, was the rule of the common law, and no different standard has been adopted since. Suppose a person should be elected President who was native born, but of alien parents, could there be any reasonable doubt that he was eligible under the constitution? I think not. ”

Lynch vs. Clarke (NY 1844)

“Every person, then, born in the country, and that shall have attained the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States, is eligible to the office of president.”

Lysander Spooner, The Unconstitionality of Slavery, pg. 119 (1845)

“It is the very essence of the condition of a natural born citizen, of one who is a member of the state by birth within and under it, that his rights are not derived from the mere will of the state.”

The New Englander, Vol. III, pg. 434 (1845)

“This is called becoming naturalized; that is, becoming entitled to all the rights and privileges of natural born citizens, or citizens born in this country.”

Andrew White Young, First lessons in Civil Government, pg. 82 (1856).

“The Constitution itself does not make the citizens, (it is. in fact,made by them.) It only intends and recognizes such of them as are natural—home-born—and provides for the naturalization of such of them as were alien—foreign-born—making the latter, as far as nature will allow, like the former. …” ‘

Attorney General Bates, Opinion of Citizenship, (1862)

“All persons born in the allegiance of the king are natural-born subjects, and all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens. Birth and allegiance go together. Such is the rule of the common law, and it is the common law of this country, as well as of England.

Justice Swayne, United States v. Rhodes, 1 Abbott, US 28 (Cir. Ct. Ky 1866)

“Natural-born Citizens, those that are born within the jurisdiction of a national government; i.e., in its territorial limits, or those born of citizens, temporarily residing abroad.”

William Cox Cochran, The student’s law lexicon: a dictionary of legal words and phrases : with appendices, Pg. 185 (1888)

“Citizens are either natural-born or naturalized. One who is born in the United States or under its jurisdiction is a natural-born citizen without reference to the nationality of his parents. Their presence here constitutes a temporary allegiance, sufficient to make a child a citizen.”

Theodore Dwight, Edward Dwight, Commentaries on the law of persons and personal property, pg. 125 (1894)

“The notion that there is any common law principle to naturalize the children born in foreign countries, of native-born American father and mother, father or mother, must be discarded. There is not, and never was, any such common law principle. Binney on Alienigenae, 14, 20; 2 Amer.Law Reg.199, 203


37 posted on 01/24/2016 3:00:07 PM PST by RC one ("...all persons born in the allegiance of the United States are natural-born citizens" US v. WKA)
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To: John Valentine

Why?


38 posted on 01/24/2016 3:03:22 PM PST by Ray76
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To: Ray76

Why what?


39 posted on 01/24/2016 3:04:39 PM PST by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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To: John Valentine

Why?

Because both the citizen parent and the foreign-born child complied with the terms of a naturalization statute.


40 posted on 01/24/2016 3:05:18 PM PST by Ray76
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