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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What’s ridiculous is anyone on either side claiming it’s settled. It’s not, and anyone who says they know how the Supreme Court would rule is a liar.


4 posted on 01/24/2016 1:28:40 AM PST by Hugin ("First thing--get yourself a firearm!" Sheriff Ed Galt, Last Man Standing.)
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To: Hugin; RC one

Funny that both objections so far come from Trumpets. I thought you folks were 100% sure that Don will win this going away? How many more will there be?


5 posted on 01/24/2016 1:31:04 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (TED CRUZ 2016)
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To: Hugin
You callin' me a liar?

This issue is settled law. The only reason it becomes unsettled (and in this sense it is very much unsettled) is that the public is ignorant of the law, and deliberately misled by the likes of Cruz, Congress, this Mr. Cole, Katyal, Clement and a host of others.

There are many ways to get to the conclusion that Cruz is naturalized. There is one way to get to the conclusion that he is not - resort to the widely-held misconception that unless one participates in a naturalization ceremony, one cannot be naturalized.

One gets to the conclusion that Cruz is naturalized by view of the US Constitution, standing alone. Another way is to view SCOTUS precedent involving the label affixed to person born abroad and made citizens-at-birth.

If one uses the authorities of US Constitution and citizenship case law (and I submit that on this question of con-law, those are the right authorities), the answer is opposite the one that Mr. Cole and others get by allowing public misconception to control the outcome.

24 posted on 01/24/2016 2:40:36 AM PST by Cboldt
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To: Hugin

Actually not hard to figure out with Benedict Roberts at the helm.


43 posted on 01/24/2016 4:41:25 AM PST by sauropod (I am His and He is mine.)
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To: Hugin
Just read the lase at the government website.

Go to :http://www.uscis.gov/policymanual/PDF/NationalityChart1.pdf

Goto:On or After Dec. 24, 1952 and Prior To Nov. 11, 1986

Read the second entry: One USC parent and one alien parent

Read: USC parent physically present in U.S. or OLP 10
years, at least 5 after age 14.

We make ourselves look like trump, coulter and others by repeating this ignorance of the law that is available through a simple search that brings up the government website that deals with this specifically.

Let's all get a life and start dealing with real issues!

83 posted on 01/24/2016 6:00:51 AM PST by Walt Griffith
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