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Canada Set To Unleash Negative Interest Rates As Oil Patch Dies, Depression Deepens
Zero Hedge ^ | 01/19/2016 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 01/19/2016 3:59:55 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 01/19/2016 3:59:55 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
This is Keynesianism taken to its ultimate insane limit. Take your money out of the bank and spend it because the bank will charge you a fee for storing it for you. Can Janet Yellen be far behind?
2 posted on 01/19/2016 4:06:07 PM PST by JoeFromSidney (,)
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To: JoeFromSidney

Time to buy stock in mattresses. :)


3 posted on 01/19/2016 4:07:14 PM PST by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: SeekAndFind

Some places are charging negative amount for oil... In other words they will PAY YOU to take some off your hands.

I will take all they have- and donate it to the strategic national oil reserve


4 posted on 01/19/2016 4:08:30 PM PST by Mr. K (If it is HilLIARy -vs- Jeb! then I am writing-in Palin/Cruz)
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To: SeekAndFind

What’s Cruz’s position on this?


5 posted on 01/19/2016 4:08:34 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: SeekAndFind

You can not make socialist happy. For years they have been telling us to cut back and conserve... and look what happens when we do. /s


6 posted on 01/19/2016 4:13:48 PM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I think it would be ironic if Hillary was arrested the day after she secures the nomination.)
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To: SeekAndFind

All perfectly timed for the new Communist Prime Minister.


7 posted on 01/19/2016 4:20:33 PM PST by headstamp 2
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To: JoeFromSidney

It’s called “deflation”, and was behind the decision of the Federal Government to make ownership of gold illegal for US Citizens, except for certain very limited purposes. Simultaneously, the price of gold was artificially raised from $20 per ounce to $32 per ounce, effectively becoming a devaluation of the dollar against all other currencies. Without gold in circulation, this effectively kicked the US currency into free fall, but because few people had cash reserves of any magnitude, prices also fell, sometimes sharply, all through the years of the Great Depression, and did not recover until the US ramped up industrial production to sell (for silver pound sterling exchange) to the British to supply armaments in their fight against Nazi Germany. The belated entry into the war, on December 8, 1941, found the US military establishment still woefully undermanned and unready for engagement with the Japanese in the Pacific and the Wehrmacht in Europe.

We cuffing near lost that war. Only our isolation and the broad ocean on both coasts prevented a widespread invasion.


8 posted on 01/19/2016 4:30:15 PM PST by alloysteel (If I considered the consequences of my actions, I would rarely do anything.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m old enough to remember long lines at the gas pumps in the 70’s. At that time, we were told oil was a limited commodity and would soon run out. Yet, here we are 45 years later and we have and oil glut. How can this be?!? Is it possible the Malthusian “experts” don’t have a clue? People like Paul Erlich and Al Gore pontificate on how things will be dire in 10 or 20 years, yet when the time goes by, and NONE of their predictions are close to right, media types go back to ask them for more follow-up “expert” advice. I’m an engineer and if I was as totally off-base in my work as they are, I would be drummed out of the profession.


9 posted on 01/19/2016 5:33:48 PM PST by JohnEBoy
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To: SeekAndFind

How is the sale of those carbon credits in fancy paper going?


10 posted on 01/19/2016 5:50:29 PM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: SeekAndFind
Soon, Canadians will do anything for an American dollar.


11 posted on 01/19/2016 7:13:15 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in "Idiocracy")
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Maybe for a very brief moment (as far as history is concerned) however our nothing backed dollar is on the verge of being replaced as the world reserve. Once that happens (and it will), hello Wiemar.

I’m long wheelbarrows.


12 posted on 01/19/2016 7:17:49 PM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Mr. K
I will take all they have- and donate it to the strategic national oil reserve

I hope you are sitting down. Part of the Ryan budget was to sell off part of the strategic reserve to balance their budget.

The Uniparty is intentionally destroying the country.
13 posted on 01/19/2016 7:19:54 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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To: SeekAndFind

When you go to the pump to fill up your car you pay the price on the pump. The price can affect how much you buy, but that’s the recreational amount. There is a base amount of gas you need to go to work go to the store to buy food, etc. That amount of gas you buy doesn’t change much, only the gas for recreation is optional. It’s not the average driver manipulating the price. Year to year we probably buy the same, give or take 10% or 20%.


14 posted on 01/19/2016 7:25:45 PM PST by r_barton ("Trump" word origin "Triumph" - Merriam-Webster Dictionary)
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To: PA Engineer

A budget needs first defined before they can balance one.

In other words, I agree with you; purpose driven destruction. DC is spending into oblivion as though there is no “tomorrow”. Kinda makes you think; if you’re paying attention. (<— not directed “at you”)

At this point, it is about setting up your offspring to simply survive in hopes you can preserve some wealth for the grandkids and even then, more probable the great-grandkids before anything can be realized.


15 posted on 01/19/2016 7:27:30 PM PST by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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Gas prices effects the type of vehicles bought. Right now I predict the average MPG of the US fleet to go up significant over the next year. So demand is not static but it changes with price.


16 posted on 01/19/2016 7:29:27 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Ghost of SVR4
At this point, it is about setting up your offspring to simply survive in hopes you can preserve some wealth for the grandkids and even then, more probable the great-grandkids before anything can be realized.

I agree. I guess budget was a bad choice. This is the corporatist vultures consuming what is left of the American economy.
17 posted on 01/19/2016 7:30:01 PM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media. #2ndAmendmentMatters)
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With high car prices and 5, 6 or 7 year loans cars stay on the road longer. More higher mileage cars come into play each year, but not right away. It’s a slow phase in.


18 posted on 01/19/2016 7:34:13 PM PST by r_barton ("Trump" word origin "Triumph" - Merriam-Webster Dictionary)
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To: JoeFromSidney
The last time negative interest rates were discussed here on FR, I simply noted that I work for a very large, international bank and that preparations for negative interest rates were already in place.

IIRC, that was about the time of the Cyprus & Greece being in the news. Greece for its unmanageable (and un-repayable) debt and Cyprus raiding depositor bank accounts (three years ago this March.)

Well, here we are. Banking systems are all ready to charge negative interest rates for NON-HIGH WEALTH RETAIL BANK ACCOUNTS (ie: you and I) while the multi-millionaires and billionaires continue to get the "high wealth" treatment vis a vis paid junkets to golf championships, someone to wash their boats, walk their dogs and more --- all for free --- while the rest of us are being prodded to spend our money, presumably to prop up the economy.

Warned y'all almost three years ago now. It's coming. Sooner than most people think. If you think paying high fees for your checking account was bad, just WAIT for being charged the "privilege" of depositing your money at one of the TOO BIG TO FAIL banks.

19 posted on 01/19/2016 7:35:34 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: SeekAndFind

Commodity-driven economies are starting a downward slide around the world, it’s happening at the state level within the United States as well, in regions that have weathered poor economic conditions pretty well up to now.


20 posted on 01/19/2016 7:37:45 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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